maybe.... Thanks for your reply Just been thinking..been doing a bit of bios mod flashing on a few motherboards and maybe i got the certs keys motherboard mixed up. I'm sure i used a bios modded with an asus slic2.1 and i can find old links to it in the bios request thread but i also noted there are links to a bios modded with an HP slic2.1 maybe i had loaded the hp cert and key and it worked but in the rush to get it sent off i got mixed up and thought i had used the asus one. is there a way to check to see what oem manufacturer the slic2.1 on the pc i sent him was modded to? I'm thinking slic toolkit that you can find on this forum? If so any idea what i'm looking for when i run the tool? thanks again