Project 10to7 (slimming down / debloating windows 10)

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by RanCorX2, Feb 20, 2018.

  1. lewcass

    lewcass MDL Senior Member

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    Its a work in progress, not ready yet, see post 236 above.
     
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  2. RanCorX2

    RanCorX2 MDL Addicted

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    still working on it, making the project work on TH1 through to RS4+ atm.
     
  3. GOD666

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    I really love your mentality. If Microsoft will not make Windows 10 the way you want or need it, you'll make it the way you want or need it. lol Keep up your efforts and do keep us all in the loop. :)
     
  4. lewcass

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    Yeah, keep us in the loop as long as MS keep us in the poop. :D
     
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  5. RanCorX2

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    #245 RanCorX2, Jun 25, 2018
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    ok, will do. currently on last stage, the system folder removals. down a few hundred files so far, testing all sorts of stuff along the way....to make sure stuff still works.

    - bluetooth (multiple system files needs for device pairing and installation)
    - sound
    - installing office (seems to rely on multiple windows system files for installation to work, get errors about product key invalid)
    - control panel items
    etc etc

    also keepin a txt list of files that are critical, not adding what they are needed for as there's probably more than one thing they break, but some prevented windows login and broke the blocked shutdown screen.

    also made a list of files to keep on each final build of (th1, th2, rs1, rs2, rs3, rs4)
    rs3 allowed the most removals for some reason.
     
  6. boo123

    boo123 MDL Member

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    work for windows 10 enterprise ltsb
     
  7. scfp

    scfp MDL Novice

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    Great work thanks for the update
     
  8. ZModdder

    ZModdder MDL Novice

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    Awesome effort! Can't wait to try it out and report back how it works. I have no use use for MS Office as i use LibreOffice. I would make the OS as light s possible for my part.
     
  9. RanCorX2

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    @boo123

    yes. the project will work on all editions & builds (excluding insider builds)

    aims to achive better removals than ntlite on windows 10 and to reduce the chance of critical stuff breaking.

    Everytime i've tried the same removals using ntlite it always f'd up windows, usually resulting it windows setup not working correctly within windows.
     
  10. RanCorX2

    RanCorX2 MDL Addicted

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    All I ask is for those still interested, be patient, i'm just one guy and it's time consuming trying to slim down windows, so many things that can and have gone wrong, lost count how many snap shots i've created and the amount of times i've reinstalled windows.

    I'm on the last leg, removing files from system32 / syswow64 , doing it in alphabetical order, files beginning with A and so on, i'm up to H. These folders are the buggers as they are system folders and removing just one file here and there causes no boot or other issues.

    The biggest pain so far has been getting net 3.5 installing via windows update through windows features dialog, so many files seem to be linked to that, i've had to list countless files that i can't delete as it breaks that and you get various vague windows errors, some are the usual 0x800F0950 and some say component store corrupt and one said something about endpoint mapping etc.
     
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    #251 eewertyuytrew, Jul 3, 2018
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    #252 eewertyuytrew, Jul 3, 2018
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  13. RanCorX2

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    #253 RanCorX2, Jul 3, 2018
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    sorry, hyper-v removals stay, the project is aimed at slimming down to as close to the windows 7 default amount of features. hyper-v on windows 8-10 is a heafty set of packages, would take too much effort to kee as it's more integrated in the os, unlike on windows 7 where it was an optional download which didn't just include hyper but a whole load of other stuff.

    use vmware or virtualbox as they are much better.
     
  14. lewcass

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    What do you mean default features? Surely Default is whatever ms include on an iso and they will vary by edition too.
     
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  15. RanCorX2

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    what i mean is slimming down of features / components so windows 10 is closer to the size of 7, folder sizes etc.

    i.e. removing as much of the stuff they added post windows 7 (8 rtm) through to 10 rtm and up to now (rs4)

    so far i've halved the size of my windows folder by removing stuff, removed roughly 50,000+ files so far.
     
  16. asache

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    if you have time can you edit first post and add history of modifications made ?
     
  17. RanCorX2

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    ^ will see what I can do.

    i've just finished the system folder removals, so nearing a release, just addin a few more things to control panel, restoring offline help files, reducing amount of batch files than run and a few other things.
     
  18. GOD666

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    I am a firm believer that nothing is ever ready until it has been tested. At some point, I hope you release a preview or beta of this. I know you want to get it right, but the funny thing about coding is until it has been pushed into the real world, you'll never know if it truly works. You can get it to work 100x on your PC and strangely miss the mark on everyone else's. -- That's the life of coding. -- That said, hope to see something to download and try out soon.
     
  19. Mavericks Choice

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    Yes look forward to a release also?
     
  20. RanCorX2

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    got 6 desktops and several laptops, which i'm using to test, all good so far.

    ran into some issues with bluetooth devices and printing but got that sorted.


    here's a snippit, a list of files to not remove.

    Code:
    #Files_to_Keep#
    
    AboveLockAppHost.dll
    ActivationManager.dll
    AppContracts.dll
    AudioEndpointBuilder.dll
    AudioSrvPolicyManager.dll
    
    BackgroundMediaPolicy.dll
    BCP47Langs.dll
    BCP47mrm.dll
    BitsProxy.dll
    BrokerLib.dll
    
    ClipboardServer.dll
    Clipc.dll
    coloradapterclient.dll
    container.dll
    coreaudiopolicymanagerext.dll
    CredProv2faHelper.dll
    CredProvDataModel.dll
    credprovhost.dll
    credprovs.dll
    CSystemEventsBrokerClient.dll
    
    dab.dll
    dabapi.dll
    dafBth.dll
    daxexec.dll
    dbgcore.dll
    DevPropMgr.dll
    Dot3Conn.dll
    dot3mm.dll
    dpapisrv.dll
    dpapi.dll
    dsparse.dll
    dafDockingProvider.dll
    DafGip.dll
    DafPrintProvider.dll
    DefaultDeviceManager.dll
    DefaultPrinterProvider.dll
    
    eappgnui.dll
    EventAggregation.dll
    ExecModelClient.dll
    execmodelproxy.dll
    
    FdDevQuery.dll
    fwpolicyiomgr.dll
    
    iemigplugin.dll
    ieproxy.dll
    ImplatSetup.dll
    InputHost.dll
    InputSwitch.dll
    ISM.dll
    
    joinutil.dll
    
    kd.dll
    KerbClientShared.dll
    
    LogonController.dll
    
    mfmkvsrcsnk.dll
    mfmp4srcsnk.dll
    mfmpeg2srcsnk.dll
    mfperfhelper.dll
    mintdh.dll
    mobilenetworking.dll
    modernexecserver.dll
    msIso.dll
    MrmCoreR.dll
    MSWB7.dll
    
    NetDriverInstall.dll
    netprofmsvc.dll
    notificationplatformcomponent.dll
    
    OneCoreCommonProxyStub.dll
    OneCoreUAPCommonProxyStub.dll
    
    policymanager.dll
    pnppolicy.dll
    ProductEnumerator.dll
    PsmServiceExtHost.dll
    psmsrv.dll
    prm0009.dll
    
    ResetEngine.dll
    ResourcePolicyClient.dll
    ResourcePolicyServer.dll
    RMapi.dll
    rmclient.dll
    RTWorkQ.dll
    
    ShareHost.dll
    shutdownux.dll
    SystemEventsBrokerClient.dll
    SystemEventsBrokerServer.dll
    
    TextInputFramework.dll
    threadpoolwinrt.dll
    TimeBrokerClient.dll
    TimeBrokerServer.dll
    
    usermgr.dll
    usermgrcli.dll
    UserMgrProxy.dll
    usoapi.dll
    
    wcmcsp.dll
    wcmsvc.dll
    wincorlib.dll
    win32appinventorycsp.dll
    win32kbase.sys
    win32kfull.sys
    win32u.dll
    wininitext.dll
    wldp.dll
    winmmbase.dll
    winnlsres.dll
    winnsi.dll
    winsrvext.dll
    Windows.Storage.OneCore.dll
    WlanRadioManager.dll
    wuuhext.dll
    
    #Files_to_Keep#
    removing some of those breaks;

    adding bluetooth devices
    wmp not playing videos
    black screen on logon
    not booting windows, hangs on spinning dots
    broken task schedular
    winx menu stops working
    and various other windows not working right probs....