Question if leaked RTM = Version to buy on Oct 22....again

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Eazy Ace, Sep 1, 2009.

  1. Eazy Ace

    Eazy Ace MDL Junior Member

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    So, i got a question again:)
    we all know that the leaked RTM is the final version of Win7.
    But is this the same one that will be in stores on Oct 22?
    or will it be RTM + leaked updates and other programs like moviemaker2009???
    will the version-to-buy-in-stores include updates, or will everbody have to get them via Windows Update?

    hope you understand the question:eek:
     
  2. tuvi123

    tuvi123 MDL Addicted

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    will be exactly the same.

    no, updates will not be included, everbody have to get them via Windows Update.
    you can however integrate the updates if you want to.
     
  3. Eazy Ace

    Eazy Ace MDL Junior Member

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    thanks!!! that's what i wanted to know!
     
  4. whitehat2009

    whitehat2009 MDL Member

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    The RTM will be the exact same image as that on the DVDs sold in stores Oct. 22. The whole point of RTM is to allow time to manufacture all those retail discs - there won't be time to integrate any updates released post-RTM.
     
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  5. ammarman

    ammarman MDL Member

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    You are wrong, the retail win7 will be localized for each region (what do you think the leaked local packs are for ? ) and I think Microsoft will integrate the updates into the retail version (as I read somewhere on neowin that Microsoft will change the definition of RTM) ....
     
  6. SirSilentBob

    SirSilentBob MDL Senior Member

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    Some OEMs MIGHT also integrate updates into Windows 7 so that the purchaser of the computer is getting, at least as of the build date of the machine, an up to date installed copy of Windows 7. At least this is what happened with previous computers sold by OEMs.
     
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  7. burfadel

    burfadel MDL EXE>MSP/CAB

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    OEM's can have an updated Windows as the Windows itself isn't on an install medium but rather an image format. It is the same once installed though. All they have to do is update the image, which wouldn't be the most difficult thing for them to do :) ...

    In terms of retail editions, the Windows install is on a physical disk (which in itself practically installs the Windows 'image' (in a sense), and the printing (aka proper commerical burning) of these disks and packaging takes time, they are already being printed and the ones coming out in October are therefore the same as the leaked RTM Windows. The retail disks only change through service packs.
     
  8. luke

    luke MDL Senior Member

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    i think your wrong all the updates upto the time they start retail printing will be added and the build number will be higher than 7600 more like 7610.
     
  9. marsovac

    marsovac MDL Novice

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    ^ What updates?! There will be no updates for Windows before October 22nd!
    The only updates available are the drivers updates & Windows Defender definitions.
    Buld stays the same (7600) until SP1 is out!
     

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  10. muiz

    muiz MDL Member

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    Yes there are already updates ;)
     
  11. roirraW "edor" ehT

    roirraW "edor" ehT MDL Addicted

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    Microsoft has never in the past changed the disc image from RTM to actual release, and they've never included any updates other than a full service pack integration.
     
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  12. burfadel

    burfadel MDL EXE>MSP/CAB

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    Thats pretty much what I meant to say :) any differences from that for OEM is simply because they use a image based system (not a physcial disk system) and they can, not saying that they actually do!

    There are no released updates for Windows 7 RTM apart from Windows 7 Defender updates. There are one or two hotfixes available (the timezone one incorrectly labelled as a Core update) and a Media centre update, the rest of the updates available are mix of more general hotfixes as well as software and security updates which will only officially be available on 22 Oct.
     
  13. frwil

    frwil MDL Addicted

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    Those who think something may be different, don't be silly, the RTM image is sent by MS to manufacturers to manufacture it, in other words - TO PRINT. MS gives right to edit this image only to Original Equipment Manufacturers - to those who make computers with pre-installed OS. Those, who print retail (or Volume or non-brand OEM) disks, just never get a right to add anything to the given image, and as it was said MS never release images with integrated updates other than Service Packs.
     
  14. Eazy Ace

    Eazy Ace MDL Junior Member

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    yes, thank you all for your answers! no more questions