Remove Telemetry and Windows 10 Related Updates from Windows 7

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Skaendo, Aug 22, 2015.

  1. allesok

    allesok MDL Novice

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    Thanks, abodi, for your kind remark about KB3172605.
    Did you go through the very long list of files in that rollup to check each and every little file in it?
    Would almost be a bit of a hopeless undertaking... But the risk for something being sneaked in is obviously low in this case.
    So I do my best to trust your word.
     
  2. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    What exactly that would sneak?
     
  3. allesok

    allesok MDL Novice

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    #403 allesok, Aug 14, 2016
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    A notorious example is KB3133977: asus.com/support/faq/1016356/
    add https and ://www (since I cannot post links).

    And many other tricks to make us update to Windows 10...
    and furthermore open telemetry channels...

    I.e., what this forum page is actually all about.
     
  4. EFA11

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    That was a big MS suck for sure, PITA for a lot of Asus users lol
     
  5. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    So they want only Asus users to upgrade, not Acer? :rolleyes:

    bad updates or updates causing problems for certain Machines is there before win 10 existed
     
  6. Michaela Joy

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    So true. But it's pretty rare. It's happened to me twice in about 30 years with MS.

    IMHO that's a pretty good track record.
     
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  7. allesok

    allesok MDL Novice

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    Well, that time it was Acer. Just a coincidence?
    Forbes reported that the red screen (this time it was not blue) was accompanied by the "advice" to switch to Windows 10 to "solve the problem"... Another coincidence?

    This discussion makes me think of trolls...
    I do not say hat you are, but that is my association...
     
  8. abbodi1406

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    Clickbait articles :rolleyes:
    one could simply spare the trouble and stop installing updates
     
  9. allesok

    allesok MDL Novice

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    After this episode, let us go back to the original intention of this Forum site.
    This deviation from it helped no one...

    Let us discuss newer updates July-August 2016 from the aspect of possible telemetry invasion.
    And maybe still concerning pushing us towards Windows 10, even if it is no more free.
     
  10. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    That's exactly what i was intend to when i said that KB3172605 is clean, it doesn't have any 'telemetry invasion'
     
  11. ricos

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    There was something about the updated consent.exe (UAC control) that had telemetry points added to it. And there's also the Intel buetooth issues.
     
  12. abbodi1406

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    Buetooth issue is bug (whether in update or Intel binaries)

    consent.exe telemetry points already added even for security updates that have this component
    it has no effect if diagtrack service is not present/running (KB3068708/KB3080149)
     
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  14. ricos

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    Yes, I know. I believe it needed mentioning as it could be crucial info for some, depending on their hw setup/reqs.

    Excellent info, wasn't aware of that dependancy. Thank you!
     
  15. allesok

    allesok MDL Novice

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    So now it does, after all, appear motivated to ask questions like I did about KB3172605. There is at least some little thing in it that is fishy...
    I may,therefore, quite as well ask the same about the August rollup KB3179573.
    It looks like we should avoid such rollups in the future, until the question has been clarified for each and every one of them...

    As concerns Windows 10, see ... [world-wide-web] ... eff.org/deeplinks/2016/08/windows-10-microsoft-blatantly-disregards-user-choice-and-privacy-deep-dive
    Windows 7 and 8 seem to be heading in the same direction.
     
  16. allesok

    allesok MDL Novice

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    Strangely silent after I brought these points up...
     
  17. allesok

    allesok MDL Novice

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    Thanks for the tip. Seems very good indeed.
    So this forum section sort of branches off here to the one above...
    Yet: How do I use the Simplex pack?
    Thankful for instructions.
     
  18. allesok

    allesok MDL Novice

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    As expected to come, MS in October 2016 introduced obstacles to updating Win7 and 8 individually so as to choose only the ones we trust. They obviously now want to force all updates, including the ones with telemetry and maybe other spy functions - I give the titles of the articles to search since I cannot yet post links:
    "Microsoft limits direct update downloads"
    "Further simplifying servicing models for Windows 7 and Windows 8.1" (simplifying? COMPLICATING, and we know why...)
    "More on Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 servicing changes"

    There are some pages that can be of some help to find ways to circumvent these obstacles:
    "Download updates from Microsoft’s Update Catalog without IE"
    "Microsoft Update Catalog: Download & save Windows Updates"

    May I suggest that we in this Forum now begin to discuss further ways to circumvent this?
    And collect tips for that.