Remove Telemetry and Windows 10 Related Updates from Windows 7

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Skaendo, Aug 22, 2015.

  1. mysteriously

    mysteriously Guest

    #81 mysteriously, Sep 8, 2015
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  2. Trickz

    Trickz MDL Novice

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    #82 Trickz, Sep 9, 2015
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    @mysteriously There are way too many updates in your list that are neither telemetry nor windows 10 related.
     
  3. marzametal

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    Sorry!

    Sorry to get your hopes up mate... about 4 hrs into my Wireshark monitoring, I saw a reference come up to "www[dot]download[dot]windowsupdate[dot]com". So I got rid of the custom firewall rules specifically made for W7/W10 Callouts and dumped "www[dot]download[dot]windowsupdate[dot]com" along with "www[dot]download[dot]windowsupdate[dot]nsatc[dot]net" into my Hosts file with reference to 0 by 0 by 0 by 0 instead of 127 by 0 by 0 by 1 - 8 hrs into monitoring and no sign of MS. Let me know if you have or have not tried the Hosts file approach yet.

    P.S.: I have been adding other entries into the Hosts file as they pop up in Wireshark, and they all seem to disappear from capture. I managed to solve an issue I had with MBAM referencing Amazon Web Services for updates. This is now nerfed, and MBAM has returned to updates from it's original CDN. So the Hosts file still might be a worthwhile approach since all the firewall rules did bugger all to keep out the above callouts. Time will tell if this works or not. Just wanted to explain and say sorry dude...
     
  4. asache

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    Its turned off by default that setting/was already turned off.

    Thanks for the heads-up @ kb2976978, didnt bothered to check , believed november 2014 because is a little old will be safe but seems i need to go more back to an older version.
     
  5. twue

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    Not sure if this is the right place to ask ... if not please move to the correct topic/section.

    So im probably being paranoid these days but just have a quick question about the latest
    Malicious Software Removal Tool.

    just showed up in my updates list and i have used it many times before but its asking me to ok the install (not to sure if it always does this cant remember to be honest) anyway part of the agreement is

    So is this ok to use and if so do i need to turn off the above or is it referring to the whole thing
    like i say im probably just being paranoid but hey these are the times we now surf in :biggrin:
     
  6. E_B_M

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    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  7. mysteriously

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    You were right, there were silverlight, mse, old ie and wmp updates. Fixed leaving only telemetry and win 10 ready updates
     
  8. marzametal

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    #89 marzametal, Sep 10, 2015
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    So, lasted all day without any callouts. Then... (grrrr)

    I wanted to look up some things about Wireshark, so jumped onto Firefox 27.0.1, loaded a search engine and started searching. Fair enough, results came up and a good result originated from "technet.microsoft.com". Nothing out of the ordinary, just a result. I loaded some other results first to suss out their information, trying to avoid MS. Checked in Wireshark, no callouts.

    Then I tried out the Technet link, and BANG, callouts! I started to read them, and BANG... more callouts!

    Like wth, it's as if as soon as you navigate to a MS hosted site, OR load up a site with references to MS hosts/domains such as "s-msft.com", the callouts begin. Which begs the question, where on earth in this plethora of software lies the gremlin that instigates callouts?! It's starting to smell like total MS avoidance is the only way out...
     
  9. Smorgan

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    Add this to the list:

    New-ItemProperty "HKLM:\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate" -Name DisableOSUpgrade -Value "1" -PropertyType "DWord" -Force | out-null

    Blocks Windows 10 from being downloaded.
     
  10. abbodi1406

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    That policy only recognised if one of the new WU client updates are installed (starting with KB3050265)
     
  11. alzz

    alzz MDL Novice

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    A new list

    Here is the list I've compiled over time. Can it be expanded? And corresponding release date/info organised into a pinned post/thread would be wonderful :D
    Plz pardon my noob lvl:g:
     
  12. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    This thread is for telemetry/upgrade related updates, not for any so called bad updates

    KB971033 issue had been over years ago with daz loader

    KB2670838 doesn't break aero, it actually accelerate the windows 7 experience
    yes, it may cause problems for a few system (specially hybird graphic intel/amd) but most of those were solved by KB2834140

    KB2505438 had been replaced long ago

    KB3046480 has nothing to do with telemtry, it just to prevet .NET error if you upgraded

    KB3058168 is for KMS Host admins that want to activate Windows10 machine using there current KMS servers
    it's not even published through WU

    KB3055323.. no telemtry related

    KB3021910.. servicing stack update, viable for system

    did you notice that your list repeat itself on most updates?

    some other sites/forums surely know how to spread FUD :D
     
  13. alzz

    alzz MDL Novice

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    #94 alzz, Sep 12, 2015
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    Heyyy! Just being wary of MS. :hug2:
    100% skippable updates (win7)
    KB971033
    KB3075249
    KB3080149
    KB2505438
    KB2952664
    KB3021917
    KB3035583
    KB3050267
    KB3068708
    KB3022345
    KB3068708
    KB2977759
    KB2990214
    KB3022345
    KB3050265
    KB3065987
    KB3075851
    KB3083324
    I think it looks fine now. (??)
     
  14. son goku

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    Hi, just a quick question. Does leaving any of these (telemetry) updates installed while still sticking with Windows 7 pose or could become a problem in the future, like mess with the genuine activation status or break system stability or anything of that nature?
     
  15. abbodi1406

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    No one know for sure

    but for me and just for the seek of tracking and playing with updates, i install them all
    and disable what they provide (DiagTrack service, Schedule Tasks, reg policy to prevent GWX and upgrade)

    no issues or adverse effects so far
     
  16. son goku

    son goku MDL Novice

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    Ok. Thanks!
     
  17. ianymaty

    ianymaty MDL Member

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    Hi abbodi1406,

    can you provide how to do the disabling? Is there any tutorial somwhere?

    I rather have the updates installed and disable them if that works as you say. I'm thinking that at some point future updates will need an older one that is missing from the system and cause mess.

    Thank you.
     
  18. pasw6

    pasw6 MDL Novice

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    me too abbodi1406, I have removed the update without any problem, but i like to know how the disabling work you do for future updates.
    Thanks
     
  19. abbodi1406

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    #100 abbodi1406, Sep 13, 2015
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    Admin cmd:
    Code:
    reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Gwx /f /v DisableGwx /t REG_DWORD /d 1
    
    reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate /f /v DisableOSUpgrade /t REG_DWORD /d 1
    
    schtasks /Change /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser" /DISABLE
    schtasks /Change /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\ProgramDataUpdater" /DISABLE
    schtasks /Change /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\AitAgent" /DISABLE
    
    schtasks /Change /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Setup\gwx\launchtrayprocess" /DISABLE
    schtasks /Change /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Setup\gwx\refreshgwxconfig" /DISABLE
    schtasks /Change /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Setup\gwx\refreshgwxconfigandcontent" /DISABLE
    schtasks /Change /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Setup\gwx\refreshgwxcontent" /DISABLE
    
    sc config DiagTrack start= disabled
    net stop DiagTrack