[REQUEST/INFO] Windows 98 Editions for collectors

Discussion in 'Windows XP / Older OS' started by Threat, Mar 28, 2014.

  1. xteam

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    #161 xteam, Aug 27, 2020
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    there is a windows 98 bill gates edition and i just found out there are service packs for 98 up to SP2
     
  2. ccypruss000

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  3. WindowsMyStyle

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    why the hashes are the same but the names different?
    what are the official names?
    thank you
     
  4. johnye_pt

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    There are no official name format for Windows 98 images, so it's normal that Vanelle had to change the names of his images a few times until he found a format he was comfortable with.
     
  5. WindowsMyStyle

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    ah ok ... so all the names I find on the Windows 95/98/ME site are "made up"
    but on the MSDN site there weren't the original names before they were deleted?
    thank you
     
  6. johnye_pt

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    I think there were, but they certainly didn't have OEM images so names had to be changed to include those and some others.
     
  7. vanelle

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    #167 vanelle, Sep 8, 2020
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    no, there where non usfull names on MSDN because
    - MSDN (the www version) prefere to release exe files (in the early days)
    - not all versions (types) where released on MSDN
    - if released on MSDN -> filename's where recycled (same filename for different release)
    - in this early days MSDN was not much usfull !!!
    thats why i had to change the names of his images a few times until i found a comfortable format to deal with a wide range of the isos
    all SHA1 are pure ISO hashes (not zero padded)

    eg Win95
    remember when the WWW was usfull for a wide renge of user who start to conect to WWW via 25k modem :rolleyes: (i need more than 1 day for a iso)
     
  8. WindowsMyStyle

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    #168 WindowsMyStyle, Sep 9, 2020
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    ok

    so to give an example:

    "en_win98_b_115_oem_cd_19981124"
    en = language
    win98 = version
    b = what is the difference between "a" and "b"
    115_oem = find it from the "setupx.dll" file
    19981124 = I can't figure out where the date is

    "en_win95c_osr2.5_OEM-FullSetup_cd_type09_19971126"
    en = language
    win95c_osr2.5 = version
    OEM-FullSetup = I can't understand where you find it
    type09 = find it from the "setuppp.inf" file
    19971126 = I can't figure out where the date is

    let me know
    Thank you
     
  9. vanelle

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    #169 vanelle, Sep 9, 2020
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    #Win95 (RTM)
    #Win95_A (SP1) <- AKA osr0 and osr1 1995/1996
    #Win95_B (SP1-OSR2.#) <- osr2.0 and osr2.1 1996\1997
    #Win95_C (SP1-OSR2.5) <- 1997\1998

    #Win98_FE_A <- 1998/05
    #Win98_FE_B_(Java-Removal) <- 1998/11
    #Win98_FE_SP1 <- 1999/06
    #Win98_SE <- 1999

    -> the timestamp from the ISO9660 PrimaryVolumeDescriptor (iso header)
    or the timstamp from the Flopy-Set
     
  10. vanelle

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    #171 vanelle, Sep 10, 2020
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    1. dump all your ISO's to valid iso size (non zero padded)
    2. compare with my SHA1 postings
    - if different, send me a PM where i can download your iso
    - i check the iso header for valid / not valid / suspect

    sorry but if i explain here public 'how to check iso'
    then i can write a "howto make more better homebrew iso's"
    -> this only maks it harder for me to check the ISO9660 PrimaryVolumeDescriptor (header) and the Iso structure

    BTW:
    there are a lot of old ISO's wich not mastered with CDIMAGE
    coz microsoft send the master iso -> CD pressing Manufacture
    it depend on the Manufacture if they need to remake a MASTER image for Pressing (non CDIMAGE), or simply can use microsoft's original-master image
     
  11. diam0ndcrush3r

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    Hello,
    I found this german W98 SE
    SHA1: 4f28cdc1866aef043173bf627e437b90e915da82
    is this a valid iso?

    thanks
     
  12. vanelle

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    yes,
    4F28CDC1866AEF043173BF627E437B90E915DA82 *[DEU] win98se_115_oem-setup_cd1_19990505_v2_aol-bug.iso
    is a original release with a Microsoft bug in the
    win98\ols\aol\aol40de.exe
     
  13. diam0ndcrush3r

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  14. sde79

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    Hi all!
    Can anyone help me get a file
    PRECOPY2.CAB
    from image
    0B3E359C5CAF3F498417E426FA44268AB4745E20 *[ENU] win98se_116_companion_cd1_19990423.iso ?
    Thanks in advance.
     
  15. sde79

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    #176 sde79, Apr 10, 2021
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    And something is known about image:
    <fake image, del>
    It looks like russian win 98 FE with 111 (MSDN?)
    Is it original?
     
  16. vanelle

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    #177 vanelle, Apr 10, 2021
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    6b0ca732310fa6503e29cd21bc5f52f9420cf06a *4.10.1998__x86fre_Win98_ru-ru-rtm-MSDN.iso <- the SHA is invalid for win98se_111

    valid Hash (with valid AutoCRC):
    43463D9E2B18686369B464EEC9E618DAB4745ACF *[RUS] win98se_111_msdn-ship_cd1_19990505.iso

    (more info after download the iso)
     
  17. sde79

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    It is first edition, not SE...
     
  18. vanelle

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    yes, sorry
    but it is definitiv homebrew

    - the PRECOPY2.CAB files can't be extracted without errors (by 7zip)
    - the PRECOPY2.CAB was a verry bad hombrew (edited) based on the (101) PRECOPY2.CAB
    - original (111) PRECOPY2.cab (e.g. MS Shipment CD MSDP-1998-10_INT-75 Russian and other) has sha1
    894b44c8dcdb9353fabd9f8a7a52c1e524ae9f07 *PRECOPY2.CAB
    - the iso TZ bit is probably also wrong (same as 101 version) -> should be the same as the 115 version
    - and some more errors
     
  19. sde79

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    #180 sde79, Apr 10, 2021
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    Thanks, it seemed suspicious to me too.
    But was there 111 russian win-98 first edition? I've never met a mention of it...