[REQUEST/INFO] Windows NT4 Editions for collectors

Discussion in 'Windows XP / Older OS' started by vanelle, Nov 28, 2014.

  1. casa36

    casa36 MDL Junior Member

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    Hi vanelle,

    The SHA is the same. So probably the serial dictates the licensing channel... I will do other tests with the English version to see what happens
     
  2. Sajjo

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    Serial sent in PM.
     
  3. vanelle

    vanelle MDL Expert

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    #203 vanelle, Jan 23, 2021
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    no
    - the channel primary depend on the iso (FPP, OEM, EVAL, SEL)
    - the CAL (Client Access Limit) depend primary on the PID (eg english FPP: 51222 = 10CAL, 50370=noCAL)
    - SEL (Volume) Keys depend on the PID (eg english SEL: 51222270 = 10CAL, 50370270=noCAL) and of course from the ISO
    afaik the key type is similar to generic key and full key
     
  4. casa36

    casa36 MDL Junior Member

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    Thanks for the details.

    indeed, i tested 111 code on english iso and it's ok i can open the licensing manager.

    I also noticed two weird things on the french iso :
    -after entering the key the installer didn't offer me to choose the licensing mode
    -the iso is not bootable and doesn't contain FRONTPG folder and autorun.inf

    @Sajjo : unfortunately, it doesn't work with your serial either :(
    Capture d’écran_2021-01-23_20-12-01.png

    I am thinking of one thing: it is marked backoffice for this version (on the previous screenshot I tried an upgrade on enterprise server)

    Could this therefore be the "trial" CD1 of backoffice 4.0-4.5?
     
  5. casa36

    casa36 MDL Junior Member

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    I really think there is a problem with this iso. I downloaded the Spanish version and everything matches well with the English one.

    So, two hypotheses :
    -This is the real iso, and Microsoft has totally screwed up and sold this as retail
    -it's effectively an eval and it exist another one FR-EN-ES.png
     
  6. vanelle

    vanelle MDL Expert

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    #206 vanelle, Jan 24, 2021
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    no,
    not all languages
    - bootable
    - have Frontpage on cd 1

    eg french enterprise with sp3 have 2 CD (CD1 is bootable and CD2 include only frontpage)
    A2E3C2E11C60215CADD9FAE5B557664E9F46207C *fr_winnt_4.0_svr_ent_sp3_cd1_040bit_SEL_19971114_10CAL.iso
    0881C1F959AD353CC9C7BF0B570E494AEDF928CE *fr_winnt_4.0_svr_ent_sp3_cd2_Frontpage_19971114.iso

    it is language and product specific
    eg you will never find fr_winnt_4.0_svr_std_sp0.iso (sp0 only relesed on EN)
    first french release is SP1 level !!!
     
  7. casa36

    casa36 MDL Junior Member

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    #208 casa36, Jan 25, 2021
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    I thought the server enterprise was ok, but no. It's same on a fresh install. I'm not able to choose the licensing mode during setup and I also have the message that is displayed in the control panel...

    What's wrong with these french isos? MS screwed up on this one too? Or it's because of SEL channel? I'm taking about this one:
    Code:
    a2e3c2e11c60215cadd9fae5b557664e9f46207c NTSE_MSDNFR.iso
    I tried with the English PID to see if that turned it into retail: Nope. I still can't choose anything. The only effect is the serial request (if i add or remove 270)
     
  8. vanelle

    vanelle MDL Expert

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    there is nothing wrong
    ;Windows NT 4.0 Server Enterprise Edition cd1 10 client (SP3 40bit Encryption) - French
    Code:
    ;Version  : Volume (SEL) Pid = "70246270"
    ;CD-Label : NTSE_MSDNFR
    ;AppName  : CDIMAGE 2.36 (01/09/97 TM)
    ;Signature: yes
    ;AutoCRC  : 0x876F5667 (valid)
    ;CRC32    : FFFFFFFF
    ;MD5      : dbedef0103c98be45dc0d6835ac44319
    ;SHA1     : A2E3C2E11C60215CADD9FAE5B557664E9F46207C
    ;
    A2E3C2E11C60215CADD9FAE5B557664E9F46207C *fr_winnt_4.0_svr_ent_sp3_cd1_040bit_SEL_19971114_10CAL.iso
    
    this is from Volume (SEL) channel with a 10CAL (10 Client Acces Limit)
    it is not published for Production Enviroment, only for Admin Test Enviroment !!!

    :confused:
    nobody can change the licensing mode during setup. each NT iso is fixed
     
  9. vanelle

    vanelle MDL Expert

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    ah, ok thx a lot
    A2E3C2E11C60215CADD9FAE5B557664E9F46207C *fr_winnt_4.0_svr_ent_sp3_cd1_040bit_SEL_19971114_10CAL.iso
    this is from Volume (SEL) channel with a 10CAL (10 Client Acces Limit)
    it is not published for Production Enviroment, only for Admin Test Enviroment !!!

    -> 10CAL SEL version -> afaik fixed 1 option -> no "Licensing Mode" window during setup -> 10 concurent clients can access (Per Server)
     
  10. casa36

    casa36 MDL Junior Member

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    #212 casa36, Jan 25, 2021
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  11. casa36

    casa36 MDL Junior Member

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    #213 casa36, Jan 26, 2021
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  12. vanelle

    vanelle MDL Expert

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    #214 vanelle, Jan 26, 2021
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    @casa36
    the topic af this Thread is
    [REQUEST/INFO] Windows NT4 Editions for collectors
    and not "how to make hombrew" Iso's

    it is realy hard enough to get Valid (genuine) original NT4 isos
    the www is full of fake ISO's (more then 90%)

    i know the files wich are required to transform the different releases (they all depend on the PID and the language), but
    i never post such infos coz it makes my live realy harder to identify homebrew isos

    BTW:
    i alredy post that the iso you called NFR is a full french FPP iso !!
    therfore you dont need files to convert FPP to FPP !!!

    the only thing you need is a valid french Key for Windows NT 4.0 Server Standart Edition (SP1 40bit Encryption) - French

    Pid = Product ID
    keys depend direct to the PID -> afair (and test)
    - each language have different Pid for the same product
    - because of this you cant make a valid Full setup (eg. for french) with a key from a different language (eg. english) space (but i am not 100% shure - have no valid french key)

     
  13. vanelle

    vanelle MDL Expert

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    #215 vanelle, Jan 26, 2021
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    This type of setup leads to one damaged (wrong) registry
    NT4 is very sensitive (which is concerned)
    there are much more setup files wich you dont change

    the only thing you need is a valid french Key for Windows NT 4.0 Server Standart Edition (SP1 40bit Encryption) - French

    As tne OP of this Thread, I ask you to delete your posts please (which affect your homebrew guidance) and keep this thread clean

    THX a lot for delete
     
  14. casa36

    casa36 MDL Junior Member

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    Sorry, it's true that my hack has nothing to do here. It's deleted.

    So I just have to find a French key and it should unlock. Thanks for the explanation :)
     
  15. Zenkaino lovelive

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  16. johnye_pt

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    Can anyone please confirm these SHA1? I'm rechecking my small archive of ISOs, and I currently have these ISOs:

    Code:
    9B48495EF7337E485CD34338BBE41F2D39419C91 / FFFFFFFF   601 051 136   NTWKS40A    en_winnt4_workstation_sp1.iso, Pid = "50036"
    
    6D9F7137E088CE5D69659278F6F36DE87A67CCEF / FFFFFFFF   655 986 688   NTSRV40BR    br_winnt4_server_sp1_UNCHECKED.iso, Pid = "50418"
    5C3E41F156475ADF5828E92582712D53CC639118 / FFFFFFFF   657 301 504   NTSR4XCMSDN    br_winnt4_server_sp1_msdn.iso, Pid = "51254270"
    FE6EC4149C54A8D4335D743E0D55C7DC29CA8429 / FFFFFFFF   552 431 616   NTWKS40BR    br_winnt4_workstation_sp1.iso, Pid = "52381"
    48E34FA5EDE9B51EEEBA8B71C65BEA1FC5663281 / FFFFFFFF   552 714 240   NTWKS40BRO2    br_winnt4_workstation_sp1_oem.iso, Pid = "01234OEM"
    
    br_winnt4_server_sp1_UNCHECKED.iso is the only one I can recreate with cdimage, because it doesn't contain a SIGNATURE like the other ones. I think nobody found out how to recreate NT4 ISOs with the SIGNATURE inside, so I'm guessing this one is a remastered one?

    I also have these two extracted from original CDs, but I haven't tested them yet:
    Code:
    C3D45096CEF8526CBBCC5FAB9D3C163B6A414E77 / FFFFFFFF   605 833 216   NTWKS40A    x1**NTWKS40A.iso
    115C8DCA0C42269C6D5620EC17B1DC5CD7BFF696 / FFFFFFFF   432 502 784   nt4sp3    x1**nt4sp3.iso
     
  17. vanelle

    vanelle MDL Expert

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  18. casa36

    casa36 MDL Junior Member

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    Hi all,

    I will soon receive the CD of OEM version of NT4 server in french (really really hard to find, i search on ebay for months). I hope it will be better authored than the FPP version :whistling:

    Vanelle, are you interested?
     

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