Slimdown10 – turn Windows 10 22H2 or LTSC 2021 into classic/legacy Windows

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by Deleted member 190847, Feb 15, 2023.

  1. hoak

    hoak MDL Member

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    This. I tried 11 as I always do new stuff and it lasted about 2 hours. I mean I hated Windows 7 vs XP, then 10 vs 7 too, but learned to tolerate (tweak) them. Windows 11 left me spitting on the floor with disgust and NEVER even a thought of giving it another try later. Windows ME? Vista? 8.0? They got nothing on Windows 11 in the 'BAD' department. Beyond the "Oh look, newish looking" factor, everything...EVERYthing else was just blatantly worse and harder to do the simplest things. Just NO! That is not even considering the intrusive, under the hood stuff. It was/is just absolute garbage.

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  3. hoak

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    #1223 hoak, Jul 5, 2024
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    I agree Dude Guyman, it's been a journey from bad, to worse since Windows 7, with Microsoft incorporating things that have nothing to do with an Operating System and everything to do with exploiting the User. I do not think, and it's not just my opinion, but the opinion of the law of most countries on the planet that an Operating System in general and Windows specifically should not be a:

    · Sales & Advertising Platform
    · Market Research Platform
    · Tool To Spy On The User In Any Way
    · An Application Of Any Kind

    Unfortunately Microsoft owns a global monopoly, and is so awash in money it can and does consider the cost of litigation and the worst outcomes for its own interests as just the cost of doing business, and is able to even prolong it's abrogation of law over decades in slowing court proceedings, again globally. The Microsoft Legal Team alone is larger than most companies on the planet.

    Just the Windows kernel alone now is so large at over 3 million lines of code that many people from Microsoft even acknowledge it's completely unmanageable. For perspective if it was printed with diamond type it would fill more than 42, 1,200 page books larger and longer than War And Peace each, or more text than the largest encyclopedia ever compiled.

    Compare this to MINIX which has has less than 6,000 lines of code in it's kernel, that would fill about 100 pages and is easily readable and comprehensible by one person and is an OS that can do more than 90% of what Windows does -- and it's easy to see that a closed source monolithic kernel the size and scale of the Windows kernel is beyond manageable.

    As far as the commercial consumer OS I think we saw 'peak' Windows with Windows 8.1 as far as new features that conferred real benefits to users at the cost of grotesque 'feature creep' that was bearable. Gamers would argue that DirectX 12 confers a lot of technology that is valuable to their hobby, but that could have just as, or more easily rolled into Windows 8.1.

    The bloat, telemetry, adware, spyware, keylogging, account scraping, number of back doors, and marketing 'features' with zero real benefit but used to sell consumers all this crap that has been added in the last seven years since Windows 8.1, comprise more code than the Windows kernel, makes the out of control scale, and grotesque ambition of Marketing Weenies to turn the Microsoft Operating Systems into their pet wish atrocity a little too obvious.

    As there are no signs that any of this will improve, in fact every sign and incentive for it to only get worse; making projects like Slimdown10, Tiny10, Micro10, Nano10, AtlasOS, ReviOS, Suckless Windows, MSMG Toolkit (that some would argue got them all started), and the people that keep them going and support them more valuable than a lot of people that use them realize in -- buying a little more performance, privacy and time...
     
  4. raptorddd

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    my spotlight settings are reverting back to picture. was working fine. not sure if chris titus script disable it. as this time i used it the tweaks menu for laptops is gone. or it might be the script hoax provided. but it was working ok.
    here my edited hoax script from privacy guy.
     

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  5. gutentaghallo

    gutentaghallo MDL Novice

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    Does anybody know what needs to be changed to be able to use Snappy Driver Installer?
     
  6. raptorddd

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    my bad am sorry i misread your username. LOL thats a k at the end. its getting harder to see.
     
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  8. BetaTesta

    BetaTesta MDL Senior Member

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    @raptorddd or anyone

    I've got en-us_windows_10_consumer_editions_version_22h2_updated_june_2024_x64_dvd_a8751094.iso and want to slim it down. Is there any updated script?
    TIA
     
  9. hoak

    hoak MDL Member

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    Yes, our local hero SunLion has been doing some maintenance on Slimdown10, most recent update is here.

    Yes that's about the best I do on 11 as well, and 43 on 10. Something I'd like to do is be able to do is have a script to stop the 'User Mode' services that get a unique PID with every reboot; common examples would be:

    · Windows Push Notifications User Service_3af9f
    · Sync Host_3af9f

    Where "3af9f" is unique to the current session. These are services I could probably do without entirely on most of my systems, so figuring out how to disable user mode services entirely would be useful.

    As well on systems where certain user mode services are sometimes needed it would be nice to have a script to identify the unique session "PID" and how this gets aliased so you have something that will stop these services unless or until really needed in any session.

    All this begs the question can the startup mode of a user mode service be changed or is it the same as the default root system service etc....
     
  10. GrofLuigi

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    If I remember correctly, you disable the parent (root) service, i.e. the service without "USER" in its name. Then the USER service won't be created.
     
  11. hoak

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    #1234 hoak, Jul 9, 2024
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    Yes, I just checked this out and it does appear to be the case. It however doesn't cover the use case where you may need to leave the main service able to run, and you just want to incorporate the ability to just "STOP" the main service and it's "User Mode" spawn as well.

    It appears that Microsoft is creating additional Service bloat in this regard as well, where not only we have more services, but more services are getting a "User Mode" treatment -- running double the payload...

    While there is a credible security argument for "User Mode" services, there are as many arguments here for: lazy OS design, consuming more threads, more kernel level i/o, less Userland control, a larger attack surface to exploit, fill_in_the_blank with other bad stuff Microsoft consistently does...

    Intellige quid agatur...
     
  12. raptorddd

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    you mean this.?
    Screenshot 2024-07-09 104622.png

    i manually do them. because theres is times that the script stopr them but sometimes after the scriptthey dont get applied.

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services
     

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    Something weird has changed in the last couple of days, using all the default settings the build process crashes every single time, trying it with updates intergrated disabled allows it to suceed, but I enabled intergrate openshell and when I booted the windows it forced a sign out saying there was a problem with the start menu.