Slimdown11 – turn Windows 11 or LTSC 2024 into classic/legacy Windows

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  1. SunLion

    SunLion MDL Expert

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    Yes, I use Double Driver. It's free and very good.
     
  2. sainfo

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    Okay, so it is indicated both in my description and in the script itself. The path can be any, but in my case it is: D:\Drivers\
     
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  3. SunLion

    SunLion MDL Expert

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    It's because I'm going to create an installer with inno setup. But you can modify it later...
     
  4. sainfo

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    I looked, everything worked for me personally. But in essence, in the end, the same .cmd file was used that I used. Only I used it in external mode, and in your version it is used in semi-automatic mode. In your case, the result was the same, but a more complex approach to it, as for me.
     
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  5. hoak

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    #126 hoak, Mar 29, 2025
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    Sadly, a trend that is never going to reverse direction, or even slow down. Worse Microsoft has made it clear that more integration, dependency, and less user configuration is intentional; Windows Next will likely be a built on immutable encrypted blob files you can't open or edit if Microsoft's Marketing Weenies have their way (as they have so far) -- it's not a terrible idea to be ready ready for an outcome like this with some alternative operating system...

    To get an idea of just how bloated Windows 11 is at over 100 million lines of code now (and just take a look at your 'slimmed' install size it's not that much smaller or that much less ridiculous than the defeat) -- even some of the most aggressive slimming projects like Tiny10, Micro11 and their more accessible counterparts like Slimdown10, and Revision have still have may times the bloat of a just an operating system that doesn't have the user hostile malware, spyware, adware, and toiletware. ReactOS -- both it's install media and installation max out at only 130Mb which includes all the self-hosting tools and source code for building and modifying the OS, a slimmed install is less than 90Mb. If you're not familiar with the project; ReactOS it's a FOSS Windows NT kernel compatible OS, that's ultimate design goal is to be Windows compatible with drivers, applications, utilities and games, I posted a little blurb about the latest update here.

    Sadly Linux distros are getting grotesquely bloated too; you have to go looking for a lightweight distro. Fortunately there are a lot of them -- some that are very popular and good like DietPi, Bodhi Linux, Puppy, Slax, TinyCore -- all, are typically less than 1/10 of Windows 11 install, have no malware, spyware*, telemetry and in many cases run Windows applications and games under emulation better and faster than Windows because they don't have the bloat and scamware overhead..

    IMHO Microsoft jumped the shark with Windows 11, even if you 'slim' it and remove applications like Edge -- there are still tens of thousands of files that can't be removed because of kayfabe dependencies, massive registry files that are always loaded in memory with tons of useless data the OS and applications you chose will never use, plus all the user hostel crap you can't remove but can only block. If you contemplate where Microsoft and the governments of the five eyes countries want this to go (and it will go), this is not a happy ending for the User, and tools like Slimdown10 and ReviOS will continue to be less and less effective.

    If Windows games and applications on Windows, is a 'have to' thing -- Obi Wan SunLion and Windows 10 LTSC IoT are our only hope, and even that will end somewhere from 2027 to 2032 depending on what you'll put up with... Microsoft and five eyes governments intend to take you to a very dark place -- they've literally promised to...

    Intellige quid agatur
    Понять, что происходит

    * Even the Linux kernel has five yes back doors, to totally GTFO you'd have to use a different kernel, like GNU/Hurd on Debian, that so far, doesn't allow any of this crap...
     
  6. Mavericks Choice

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    Would injecting these 3rd party drivers into the wim be a better option or cause much bloat?
     
  7. sainfo

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    Well, why, for example, Windiwd 11 G is practically devoid of all the terrible things you wrote about above. The only problem, personally for me, is that it is not localized in ru-RU. Or rather, it is localized without difficulty, but after localization it does not work. If I found a way to localize it in the language I need and it would not disrupt the operation of this OS, then personally I would not want to use another version of Windows.
     
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  8. SunLion

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    Yes, it should run automatically, as long as it finds the correct path: D:\Drivers.

    I will include it in the package so that it can be used by users.
     
  9. SunLion

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    I would just stick with the OS drivers that were previously stored. Other drivers can easily be added later.
     
  10. sainfo

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    As for me, it's a good idea, we're waiting for your new developments - good luck!
     
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  11. raptorddd

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    @SunLion
    or anyone else if you can help.
    using the script and LTSC there is no need to sign in into the microsoft store you just open store and download app.
    is this done by the script or LTSC doesnt require to sign in.? i ask because if its on script i would like to test this on a regular consumer W11 OS.
    thanks
     
  12. hoak

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    #133 hoak, Mar 29, 2025
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    Windows 11 G is not a Microsoft product, it's an ISO made by a Chinese kid, and it's far from devoid of all the terrible things in Windows 11, just parts of some of them are gutted, everything is still there, and any time you go to Windows update the size of the install almost doubles.

    The only "G" edition of Windows developed by Microsoft is "Windows 10 CMIT Government Edition (CMGE, China Government Edition)" which is a very light weight version of Windows, but like the fake Windows 11 version is also difficult to localize, it's missing a lot of compatibility features, so a lot of software won't even run on it...

    Microsoft discontinued the "Windows 10 CMIT Government Edition (CMGE, China Government Edition)" program after Windows 10 -- due to trade restrictions. Microsoft treats everyone like sh*t under their wheels, but especially Russia and China -- which is sad and stupid...

    All I'm saying is if you value your privacy and/or performance, Microsoft has no interest in selling either, and things will only get worse... It's not a bad time to invest some effort now, in at least exploring alternatives -- before things get too ugly, because they will, Microsoft promises!

    If you MUST use Windows 11, the "ru-ru_windows_11_enterprise_ltsc_2024_x64_dvd_f9af5773.iso" is probably the best you'll get for a starting point. It does have less crap, it is on official Microsoft ISO (you can get it on Tatooinn in Россия, and Slimdown10 should work with it...
     
  13. sainfo

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    Understandably, a lot has been written, but it's all just your point of view on this question. Blessed is the one who believes!

    In fact, the Windows Enterprise G edition, aka Windows Enterprise Government China, is somewhat unique to the Windows 10 and Windows 11 editions released by Microsoft for the Chinese public sector.

    But that's just for your information. So that in the future you do not write such nonsense about the fact that the “G” edition was created by some unintelligent child.
     
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    Hello, is it possible to include in the package of your wonderful tool the function of completely removing the application?

    Why am I saying this, everyone knows that not all applications are deleted when deleted. When they are deleted, only the table of contents is erased, and the body of the file itself remains in place. This is supposedly done in order to reduce the time it takes to remove a particular application.

    This can be clearly seen, for example, on the Edge application. We open the image, find the location of its files and see that they take up about 550 MB. Okay, we delete these files with a script or just manually. We open the image again and see that there are no more Edge application files. But the image size has not decreased at all. Because the contents have been erased, and in fact the application body, now definitely garbage, remains in the image.

    How great it would be if your script "cleaned out" all this useless garbage! It's not even about the time the script uses to process the image, it's not that important. As for me, the result obtained is important.
     
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  16. siliconbeaver

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    I love the idea. but most scripts wouldn't do that "clean out" job.

    Have you tried "tiny" version? before I switched to SunLion's scripts. I was using tiny Windows 10/11. its iso size is about 4 GB, mush smaller than nominal 5-6 GB. typically the tiny version was installed onto my computers with RAM 2GB storage 32 GB and was running fine. but almost no way to update.

    the tool to make tiny version may be what you are looking for. My guess, NOT easy to use. ;)

     
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    #138 sainfo, Mar 30, 2025
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  18. SunLion

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    As @siliconbeaver said, it's not easy to do this. Could you please share the script you used to remove edge? Maybe we could try something from there.
     
  19. SunLion

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    I believe it should work the same way. The Script only adds Store when this option is selected.