[Solved] Magnet link problem with μTorrent in Google Chrome and Edge

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  1. Windows 10 User

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  2. Windows 10 User

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    1) If doing multiple downloads but not setting bandwidth allocation, will their speed be lower than a single download's?

    2) Are torrent file downloads faster than magnet link ones?
     
  3. acer-5100

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    All file in download share the bandwidth you have. So looking from your side alone downloading 10 files in parallel takes the same time as downloading them serially.

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    The single download can be limited from the other side, because the bandwidht can be manually limited or because the users who share the file have high load or low bandwidht.

    So, is generally better to download many files at the same time.

    It's the same thing. Just two different ways to get the initial info about how to get the file
     
  4. Windows 10 User

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    1) I've been downloading one at a time so does that mean I should download +10 (e.g.) at the same time, then? I thought setting bandwidth allocation would only affect some torrents' download speed. Do you have any recommendations to increase the download speed? Also, should I avoid using the network for other processes while downloading because it might affect the download speed, I guess?

    2) I was told torrent files were faster.
     
  5. Carlos Detweiller

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    Torrent downloads segment the files into many blocks of data. These blocks are downloaded in parallel, anyway, usually from a multitude of peers. So, even if you download one Torrent at a time, per-connection limitations are not applying, unless you have one peer only, which is rare and mostly limited to private Torrents.

    Torrent files contain the metadata for downloading the actual files from the Torrent network. Magnet links are specially formatted URLs for fetching the same metadata from the network itself. In other words, the magnet link downloads the data you would already have if you downloaded a .torrent file.
    Torrent files have advantages for poor, flaky connections or very poorly seeded Torrents, as then fetching the metadata via magnet links can take ages. In all other cases, magnets are exactly as reliable as .torrent files.
     
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    So, torrent files might be faster than magnet links? Do you have any recommendations to increase the download speed? Also, should I avoid using the network for other processes while downloading because it might affect the download speed, I guess?
     
  7. Carlos Detweiller

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    They are, but only significantly faster in the situations I already wrote. However, that only applies to the metadata fetching. The actual download speeds are 100% the same for both Torrents and magnets.

    Speeds usually depend on the Torrent's peers. Poorly seeded torrents are slow. The only thing you can do is to allocate the adequate amount of bandwidth to the Torrent application (about 80% of the maximum). Allocating too much bandwidth actually causes slowness as the network overlay packets are blocked/delayed.
    As for other network usage, I usually have the Torrent app running in the background and don't worry about it. If you want to complete the Torrent downloads ASAP, avoid network- or CPU-intensive tasks.
     
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    How can the Torrent application bandwidth allocation be set? Is it via the Task Manager?
     
  9. acer-5100

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    Is not (always) that simple.

    First torrents coming from just one or two peers are not so uncommon. Is not that all torrents are Ubuntu or Current Windows ISO.

    You may want to download an uncommon beta, an old version of a program impossible to find on the web.

    Second, a specific torrent may come from a specific county where most of the people are connected to a specific internet provider that limits the upload for everyone, so you get 100 peers limited to (say) 100Kbps, which together don't make the same bandwith that a single user would have on unfiltered/unlimited bandwith
     
  10. acer-5100

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    Looking at contextual menu and / or options of a bittorrent client is faster than asking and waiting for a reply...
     
  11. Windows 10 User

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    So, the user download speed is related to the provider's ISP's.
     
  12. Carlos Detweiller

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    No, that's set in the Torrent application itself.

    Well, I have set two Torrents at a time, but if the download rate drops enough (in such cases), the Torrent application automatically starts assigning more download slots. So, technically, I'm covered.
     
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    I don't think I have a contextual menu for it (at least I can't find it).

    Anyway, I thought the bandwidth allocation could only be set for each Torrent file/Magnet link download, not for the application itself.

    I thought bandwidth allocation could only be set for each Torrent file/Magnet link download, not for the application itself.
     
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  15. Windows 10 User

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    I don't have qBittorrent and I didn't know those settings were related to bandwidth allocation. Anyway, which settings should I use on these options and will they increase my download speed, regardless if making single downloads or multiple ones?
     
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    Leave them untouched unless you have a valid reason to touch them.

    Perhaps why you have that fixation for speed? When I made my first cellular connection in the early 90s and until the end of the decade my speed was 1.1 KB/s (9800 bps). At the time every trick to do more was welcome. Download a 650MB CDrom ISO took literally a week.

    But now that the slowest cellular networks are measured in dozens of Mbps, what's the point?

    We can download a windows ISO in minutes a 45minutes TV series episodes in 1/2/3 minutes, and so on there's no point in being obsessed by the networks/download speeds.
     
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    Right now Qbittorrent is the fastest free app having clean UI. No changes needed to speed up torrents. Just install , set download folder, number of files to be downloaded at once ( I put 8 or 10 max downloads at once because my internet speed is 300 mbps) and start downloading. No extra settings needed to speed up torrent. Just when start downloading set "maximum" speed on the files you wish to have priority or otherwise just leave it download normally. Usually torrents having good number of seeds will download quickly though you leave it at normal speed.

    You can also use Bitcomet but you must have to hide advertisements in it. (It allows to hide ads). But nothing can beat Qbittorrent speeds.
     
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    Because many of my downloads are slow and I don't think it's right to compare the past with the present. My download speed isn't the same as yours, unfortunately. Also, I use UUP Dump to download Windows 11 ISOs and not a BitTorrent client and it takes a lot of time to create the ISO.

    I think I'll try it (qbittorrent). What is the fastest BitTorrent client including paid ones?

    Also, I thought all BitTorrent clients had more or less the same download speed since it depended on the user's internet connection, the number of seeds and the speed limits imposed by the client.
     
  19. acer-5100

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    It's absolutely right. Especially for windows ISOs that today aren't much bigger than they were the day Vista was released 15 years ago. But the network speed is increased by a factor between 10x to 500x in that timeframe. Now I understand that the mileage varies depending the country, depending if you are in a rural area or in the center of a city, but still the network increased everywhere.

    That said if your tap water comes in drops, hardly something changes if you collect it in big bottles or small glasses, the problem is the aqueduct not your tap, not your glasses...
     
  20. case-sensitive

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    @ ' problem '

    Solution = Get a sensible internet conection with enough bandwidth .............thats the only real limit you have .............. all the rest ......... EG wich program is better / are torrents faster than magnet links / prioritising things / is downloading one file better / faster than downloading 10 at a time .............. is just kiddy crap

    @ Faster !?!? ........... at what ? ......... how ? .......... why ? .......... how much ' faster ' ? ........... does it realy matter ?