Solved - W7 Boot.wim updates/Installation updates

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by wazzock, Nov 6, 2016.

  1. wazzock

    wazzock MDL Senior Member

    Oct 22, 2016
    340
    185
    10
    #1 wazzock, Nov 6, 2016
    Last edited: Nov 6, 2016
    Over on the Simplix pack topic i have seen several mentions of installation updates. I didnt want to hijack it because I dont use the Simplix pack, i use individual updates so i posted a new one.

    What the hell are these installation updates and where do i find them? Are they updates for the boot wim/setup only or are they mixed in with the usual updates, and if so, how do i tell which updates are for which wim.

    I have hunted high and low, i use google and can find most things i need, but this topic, i cannot for the life of me find a definitive topic anywhere for. Id have more luck searching for rocking horse droppings.

    Can someone who knows their onions, either point me to a definitive, or create one here please.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  2. tcntad

    tcntad MDL Guru

    Oct 26, 2009
    4,104
    1,303
    150
    You'd know if you read the first page of that thread..

    The Simplix Pack is only for updating Windows.
    You dont integrate this pack to Boot.wim (as its setup and recovery environment)


    Am I getting it right?
     
  3. wazzock

    wazzock MDL Senior Member

    Oct 22, 2016
    340
    185
    10
    #3 wazzock, Nov 6, 2016
    Last edited: Nov 6, 2016
    (OP)
    I dont use Simplix packs. I use individual updates manually downloaded. All i see on that topic is "install wim".
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  4. tcntad

    tcntad MDL Guru

    Oct 26, 2009
    4,104
    1,303
    150
    Mostly beacuse I wasnt sure what you were asking..

    As long as W7 x86 is integrated to W7 x86 Install.wim it doesnt matter which edition. same goes for x64.
    No such updates for boot.wim exists. I never seen such anyway.
     
  5. wazzock

    wazzock MDL Senior Member

    Oct 22, 2016
    340
    185
    10
    I did try to be specific as i could(many are not). So as far as you know, there are no updates for the boot wim. So when i see "installation updates" they would be for the install wim, downloaded and installed during setup then :g:

    Thats all i needed to know, Thank You :)
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  6. wazzock

    wazzock MDL Senior Member

    Oct 22, 2016
    340
    185
    10
    Look what i found at the bottom of this page, here and here

    FML :kick::kick:
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  7. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

    Oct 30, 2009
    16,833
    21,122
    340
    Just open every msu and check if there is applyable on WINPE mentioned, or run all updates, dism will skip the ones who can't be integrated in boot.wim (that goes for 8 and 10 at least).
     
  8. wazzock

    wazzock MDL Senior Member

    Oct 22, 2016
    340
    185
    10
    Mount boot wim, add all updates and let dism sort them out? great :) Thank You Enthousiast :worthy:

    I'll make notes which take and which dont. :)
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  9. T-S

    T-S MDL Guru

    Dec 14, 2012
    3,988
    1,318
    120
    What update do you expect on boot.wim? Surely they don't go to integrate something like the USB3 drivers, and even if possible improvement in the recovery environment could be expected, is better to use a win 8/10 media for recovery purposes.

    Just update your install.wim and live long and prosper.;)
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  10. wazzock

    wazzock MDL Senior Member

    Oct 22, 2016
    340
    185
    10
    See here is my problem. 3 people who know their onions and 3 different opinions. If you all had the same opinion 1 way or another, that means there is a definative answer. 3 differing, o_O

    Thank you guys :)
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  11. Mr.X

    Mr.X MDL Guru

    Jul 14, 2013
    5,996
    13,567
    180
    #11 Mr.X, Nov 6, 2016
    Last edited: Nov 6, 2016
    Imoe I haven't found any issues by not updating or integrating any updates into boot.wim, with the exception of USB3.0/3.1 drivers and Mass Storage drivers.
    Note that I only use my customized isos for clean install though.

    EDIT:
    I've performed in-place upgrades with no problems either.
     
  12. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

    Oct 30, 2009
    16,833
    21,122
    340
    #12 Enthousiast, Nov 6, 2016
    Last edited: Nov 6, 2016
    It;s mostly important to update winre.wim (same winpe updates) on 8.x and up because of the newly (8.0 and up) implemented build-in recovery options.

    I also never updated 7 boot.wim and winre.wim.
     
  13. wazzock

    wazzock MDL Senior Member

    Oct 22, 2016
    340
    185
    10
    #13 wazzock, Nov 6, 2016
    Last edited: Nov 6, 2016
    (OP)
    Im going to mark topic as solved, but i dont want it locked, i will post what updates boot.wim takes. :)
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  14. Mr.X

    Mr.X MDL Guru

    Jul 14, 2013
    5,996
    13,567
    180
    @Enthousiast
    Lets not miss the point here, OP is talking about boot.wim for Windows 7.
    All you've said about higher OSes is right...
     
  15. wazzock

    wazzock MDL Senior Member

    Oct 22, 2016
    340
    185
    10
    If it is applicable to 8 onwards, then it is nice to know(for my own use) and for other users who may find it helpful knowing that and will save me and them making new topics :)
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  16. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

    Oct 30, 2009
    16,833
    21,122
    340
    One tip, abbodi1406 has made Windows Update integration scripts, i only use the one for 10 but maybe you can find an answer for your questions about 7 in the win7 script or when you trial run it.
     
  17. wazzock

    wazzock MDL Senior Member

    Oct 22, 2016
    340
    185
    10
    I will give it a good look for certain. :)
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  18. wazzock

    wazzock MDL Senior Member

    Oct 22, 2016
    340
    185
    10
    No more replies for the time being guys, ive got enough to go on. :)
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  19. T-S

    T-S MDL Guru

    Dec 14, 2012
    3,988
    1,318
    120
    Just an info that may change your life

    In my country we say "I know my chickens", not onions :p
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  20. wazzock

    wazzock MDL Senior Member

    Oct 22, 2016
    340
    185
    10
    Mexico or Italy :) Chickens or onions, food is food :tasty:
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...