I guess I'm lucky. After 10 years of smoking, I switched to dip thinking it would help break the habit. Then I found out dip has on average 4 times the nicotine versus smoking tobacco. So I was stuck using dip for a few more years, then one day I just really didn't want it anymore, and haven't touched any tobacco since. So I quit cold turkey after about 12 years of tobacco use. No gums, patches, electronic cigs, etc needed. And I didn't have any withdrawal symptoms at all. It's proof enough to me that it's mind over matter. Going on 9 years tobacco free now and I don't miss it one bit. When a person truly realizes he wants to quit, he will. Until then, he only thinks he wants to quit.