Stop Windows 10 1607 upgrading to 1709

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by lewis_MDL, Feb 16, 2018.

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Do you hate the forced update style Windows?

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  2. No

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  1. lewis_MDL

    lewis_MDL MDL Novice

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    Hello everyone.

    Recently, I have been plagued by my computer being forced to upgrade to windows 10 version 1709. I want to stay on the 1607 version.

    Killing "Windows10UpgraderApp.exe" works when I am at the PC, but when away and left on, it will upgrade to 1709 without hesitation.

    I have been trawling around in event logs and task manager, and that is where I found a reference to a program called UpdateAssistant.exe in C:\Windows\UpdateAssistant.
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    In explorer, there are two executables in the folder, as well as Task Scheduler tasks in their xml format. From these files, it is revealed that the tasks that run the windows 10 updater are located in Task Scheduler Library\Microsoft\Windows\UpdateOrchestrator\.
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    There are three tasks - UpdateAssistant, UpdateAssistantCalendarRun and UpdateAssistantWakeupRun. Disable all three of them (right click + disable). Looking at the triggers of the tasks, they are set to run UpdateAssistant.exe at pretty much any time possible - At logon, on idle, on unlock and lock, and at system start up as well as when an event is logged.

    Since I have disabled these, I have not been pestered with Windows 10 upgrades.

    I hope this solves your problem as well as it did mine.
     

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  2. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    Set Automatice Updates policy to notication, and/or set connection as metered, and use WUMT or wushowhide.diagcab to hide unwanted updates
     
  3. lewis_MDL

    lewis_MDL MDL Novice

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    WUShowHide does not stop this because it is not done through windows update - windows launches the setup in a silent-ish mode using the tasks shown above.
     
  4. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    Setting LAN to metered and hide the Feature Update doesn't help, i tested this to no avail. Since 1607 will go EOL in april the nagging became more aggressive it seems.
     
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  5. kaljukass

    kaljukass MDL Addicted

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    Why this chemistry, if you can go to the Windows Update settings, choose Advanced settings and disable updates. Works perfectly and without any problems.
     
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  6. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    Is disabled here, still doesn't work :cool2:.
     
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  7. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    I know, but if you hid these "upgrade" updates, you would not get UpdateAssistant in the first place :)
    Code:
    KB4056254 OS Remediation System Service
    KB4033631 Compatibility Appraiser
    KB4023814 Update Assistant tool
    KB4023057 Remediation Shell
    anyway, i think this might block the upgrade
    Code:
    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\CreatorsUpdatePrivacySettings]
    "AllowCreatorsUpdate"=dword:00000000
    
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows10Upgrader\Volatile]
    "BlockWUUpgrades"=dword:00000001
     
  8. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    Interesting, only have KB4033631 installed :g:.
     
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  9. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    It's the only regular CBS update
    KB4023814 and KB4023057 are MSI packages

    KB4056254 is a manual service that get installed
    been noted in ver 1703
     
  10. joll69

    joll69 MDL Novice

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    What's your edition? Pro/Enterprise/education can use group policy to block OS updates. Home/Core can't.
     
  11. rpo

    rpo MDL Addicted

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    You could try this.
     
  12. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    Deactivating the 3 tasks is sufficient, no need for additional tools :D.
     
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  13. elzna

    elzna MDL Senior Member

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    I was very unfortunate to download the KB4023814 yesterday. (Apparently pushed on feb 15, 2018 for people running on v 1607).
    The patch is irreversible, well played, microballs.

    This should work however. Run them one by one in an elevated command prompt. Every time you patch windows, make sure that you run these commands. Either manually or from batch file.

    Code:
    schtasks /Change /TN "Microsoft\Windows\UpdateOrchestrator\UpdateAssistant" /Disable
    schtasks /Change /TN "Microsoft\Windows\UpdateOrchestrator\UpdateAssistantCalendarRun" /Disable
    schtasks /Change /TN "Microsoft\Windows\UpdateOrchestrator\UpdateAssistantWakeupRun" /Disable
    schtasks /Change /TN "Microsoft\Windows\UpdateOrchestrator\Schedule Scan" /Disable
    schtasks /Change /TN "Microsoft\Windows\UpdateOrchestrator\Schedule Retry Scan" /Disable
    
    Code:
    REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\CreatorsUpdatePrivacySettings" /v "AllowCreatorsUpdate" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
    REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows10Upgrader\Volatile" /v "BlockWUUpgrades" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /f
    REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\OSUpgrade" /v "AllowOSUpgrade" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
    
     
  14. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    This might remove it
    Code:
    UpdateAssistant.exe /Uninstall
    or
    Windows10Upgrade.exe /Uninstall
     
  15. elzna

    elzna MDL Senior Member

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    Yes. That's the first thing you do (it will delete C:\windows10upgrade + the Update Assistant).
    However, you need to disable the schtaks services aswell, or else update assistant is reinstalled in a matter of seconds and folder C:\windows10upgrade is recreated. Micro balls evolved this time, with a much more agressive updateassistent patch.

    If this folder exists, it should also be deleted.
    C:\Windows\UpdateAssistantV2
     
  16. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    Unfortunatly understandable from MS POV since 1607 (except LTSB) will go EOL in April.
     
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  17. elzna

    elzna MDL Senior Member

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    1709 is probably bloated with tons of ads and new snake oil features. No point upgrading at this point.
    Not when I've perfectly debloated 1607 :)
     
  18. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    Emphasis on 'probably'. Majority can be deactivated like in earlier builds (see MSMG toolkit and alike).

    Since my system is online i will avoid running an unsupported build and switch soon.
     
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  19. Kenzeira

    Kenzeira MDL Junior Member

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    What i did:
    Turned off the internet (unpplug the ethernet cable)
    Did a fresh install of an old Win 10 version (1703 on my case)
    Then, on desktop i'd open wushowhide and plugin the ethernet cable back
    I choose to hide the 1709 resource update or whatever
    It never come back to bother me again.
     
  20. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    Unfortunately that doesn't work on older versions which are already EOL or due to (i.e. 14393) :cool2:.
     
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