Struggling with W10 install

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by alan kerr, Mar 19, 2018.

  1. alan kerr

    alan kerr MDL Novice

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    Hello one and all .... new to the forum .... my query relates to my current attempt to install from a USB drive to a Lenovo Ideapad, W10 x86 stripped down using the MSMG Toolkit .... I get past the initial couple of pages of the install, but grind to a halt where I am told an unspecified hardware driver needs to be installed .... at a loss(am pretty much a novice when it comes to 'working under the hood' as it were) ..... any suggestions greatly appreciated ....... Alan
     
  2. mehdibleu

    mehdibleu MDL Expert

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    are you trying to install win10 uisng USB 3.0 USB port ? if so, connect the usb drive on USB 2.0 and see the result.

    if using USB 2.0 port does not solve the problem, the only thing i can think of is the hard drive, so are you trying to install win10 on SSD ?
     
  3. Wazoo

    Wazoo MDL Senior Member

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    Try using an unadulterated version of Windows 10.
    If it works then your "stripped down" version is the problem.
     
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  4. shhnedo

    shhnedo MDL Senior Member

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    I can assure you USB3 is not a problem even for windows 8.1.
    What's the exact model of the IdeaPad?
    Which windows 10 release are you attempting to install?
     
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  5. joluboga

    joluboga MDL Member

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    Just out of curiosity, why did you choose to install an x86 version of Windows 10? How much RAM does your laptop have?
     
  6. app_raiser

    app_raiser MDL Junior Member

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    u have to create an uefi based usb install/boot stick and install in true uefi mode (gpt). if u don't u will never get install finished! never! ;-)

    i recommend "rufus" to do that, and btw, install x64!...

    if u have usb3.0, u have uefi AND x64 capability.
     
  7. mehdibleu

    mehdibleu MDL Expert

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    #7 mehdibleu, Mar 19, 2018
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    what do you say that ? i've already installed win10 many times on machines with UEFI/CSM enabled using 64bit architecture.
    He can also choose to install win10 on Legacy/bios and by disabling UEFI, the install should work as well.
    In his case, we can imagine that he booted from usb stick with Legacy/bios (UEFI disabled), otherwise he couldn't have booted from USB drive as he's installing win10 x86 and we know that installing windows 32 bit arch is impossible uisng UEFI with very few exceptions.
     
  8. John Sutherland

    John Sutherland MDL Addicted

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    #8 John Sutherland, Mar 19, 2018
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2018
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  9. TairikuOkami

    TairikuOkami MDL Addicted

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    I had never managed to install 10 in UEFI mode on any laptops I have, Lenovo Ideapad included, even if they support it. I have always used CSM/Legacy support for x64.

    The latest version of Rufus is butchered, I failed to even launch the setup because of it. I have switched to Universal-USB-Installer instead.
     
  10. nosirrahx

    nosirrahx MDL Member

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    When it comes to hardware and drivers on a new install with a modified image, I do the following trick.

    1. Install 10 from the media creation tool, it should just work.
    2. Allow windows updates to complete any additional driver installs.
    3. Use the manufacturer wedsite to fill in any missing drivers from device manager (likely wont be any).
    4. Collect all of the driver folders created after your initial install created here (ignore the mountain that installed during the primary install as they are already in your image):

    C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository

    5. Integrate all of these new drivers into your modified image.
    6. Format and reinstall windows this modified image, it should be 100% driver complete on your first go (this even works for graphics drivers).
     
  11. rpo

    rpo MDL Addicted

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    Why complicating things?
    Format a fat32 stick, mount the iso and copy its contents onto the stick, that's all. rufus is not needed at all.
     
  12. app_raiser

    app_raiser MDL Junior Member

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    i use rufus (2.18 portable) for a year now (at work). i do not "try" to install win7/8/10 in uefi mode anymore. on some machines you
    may just have to use an untouched microsoft image to install win 10 (or 8). regulary i use selfmade ones patched to a specific build.
    i know there are many tools do the same job, making them bootable, as good as rufus does it for me. it took me... some years, to be honest
    to get it completely - csm/mbr/legacy & efi/gpt/tpm/secureboot - sadly microsoft just begins to make
    the disadvantages of extensible firmware interfaces very clear.
    (by breaking samsung m.2 ssds for example)..
    so i would recommend think twice whether to install legacy or uefi!!
    case specific u can have highest possible performance with uefi or legacy as well!
     
  13. dhjohns

    dhjohns MDL Guru

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    I installed 10 on my sister's UEFI machine. I simply formatted thumb drive as fat32, copied contents of ISO to it, stuck it in front USB port, turned on machine, and it installed.
     
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