Support ends in a few months, where to go next?

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Kim100, Aug 22, 2019.

  1. AeonX

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    Yes I try to balance everything I remove as much as possible but keeping the image compatible with most software and hardware. I remove most drivers only leave the essentials to install the OS and to work on VMware and VirtualBox. I use Snappy Driver Origin with all the packs I need downloaded to install drivers. Extra languages, fonts and keyboards I also remove and some more components that I find safe to remove and I do some tweaks :)
     
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  2. rayleigh_otter

    rayleigh_otter MDL Expert

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    AeonX :worthy: I have always found the "best" build is a compromise one. :) windows 7 will still be used quite a bit in 2024
     
  3. AeonX

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    And I will use Windows 8.1 until chrome stops updating :yeahyeah:

    Then I definitely migrate to Linux and I will only use Windows 10 to install for those who ask me
     
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  4. rayleigh_otter

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    I prefer 7, can go to 8.1 then LTSC(depending on hardware). Windows for airgapped workstation, debian for online :)
     
  5. rayleigh_otter

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    Looks like that Biostar driver that CEW linked is for windows 8.1 too, will test, handy if it is ;) Got some stuff coming so i can set up a seperate test bench :)
     
  6. rayleigh_otter

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    And we will be having the same conversation about 8.1 in 2022 :biggrin:
     
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    #88 rayleigh_otter, Oct 8, 2019
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    CEW gets a :worthy: :worthy: because that Biostar driver contains "Intel(R) Display Audio Driver: 10.22.01.100 (Windows* 8.1/10)", known working on UHD630(i3 8300). Brilliant, we're not limited to w7 on H310C now, can use 8.1 and B360 too :clap3:
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  8. rayleigh_otter

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    We're gonna have another 8.1 convert here soon. :)
     
  9. Joe C

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    Even 8.1 has a limited time before EOL. I do suspect that W7 will be extended beyond the 01/14/20 dead line but even considering that eventually the software support will end.
    I think that LTSC may be the better option for those that do not want the crap that M$ shovels out now, But it is the better alternative for using Windows
     
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  10. rayleigh_otter

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    LTSC is the best of a bad bunch. At least it can be polished but that takes a lot of work. The last heavily tweaked build i did was stable and out of the 2 then LTSC is the easiest to service, just 4 updates and the latest .net. But 8.1 gives me much better Handles Threads and Processes numbers. o_O
     
  11. rayleigh_otter

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    The consollation is i know how and what to tweak if the time comes. Hindsight would be perfect just about now. o_O
     
  12. AeonX

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    Yes but after installing drivers and some programs ended up with similar numbers and performance between the 2 here very different from what I saw on VM. With you not? I am frustrated. Thinking of installing LTSC.
     
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    #94 rayleigh_otter, Oct 11, 2019
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    The system didnt have any drivers or programs installed, just the os. They are extreme because they are airgapped on minimum services. Once ive had my mitts on ltsc its acceptable. :) and its the easiest to service, less updates, less time.
     
  14. AeonX

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    Oh ok. Well, I think 8.1 is a bit more responsive than 10 because of the lighter UI, I will insist on 8.1 a bit more :)
     
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  15. rayleigh_otter

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    Persist, me savvy :) Stick with it because it still has a bit over 2 years official support, is lighter and faster and non of that telemetry crap. By which time there will be a new LTSB/C out.
     
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    I hope the next version of LTSC will be lighter although I find it difficult to happen :(
     
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  17. rayleigh_otter

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    I doubt it, bigger and more telemetry. Wait and see. Whatever happens i will be tweaking the crap out of it. :evil:
     
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    #99 rayleigh_otter, Oct 11, 2019
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    Im considering it. There are a lot of considerations that put ltsc(and debian) slightly ahead of 8.1.
    I need to cut down my workload drastically. :(
     
  19. AeonX

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    Doing some equivalent tweaks and/or removals on 2 (8.1 and LTSC) here the performance is very close with 8.1 being slightly faster but I have a relatively fast hard drive, 8GB of RAM and a Pentium G3240 (Haswell). On older hardware the difference may be greater.

    I would like to get as much lighter Windows as possible to install on a Pentium E5700 I think the best would be Win7 but the end of support is very close and browsers and programs will stop supporting too.
     
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