The project beta-Emulation is here!!

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  1. jess_

    jess_ MDL Member

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    [reserved for info]
     
  3. EclipseSin

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    I don't get it. What exactly are you doing?
     
  4. jess_

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    It is a project to create an emulation that does not change the mbr.
    That will make a boot while maintaining the possibility of starting windows 7 with or without emulation

    Posibilities:

    -1- Install beta-Emulation
    -2- use beta-Emulation in test mode (check mode) :
    Can used to check whether different 7loaders or WOW7 work, without losing the boot
    -3- Facilitates the location of the partitions.
    Can be used in resistance to activation

    good luck
     
  5. chinobino

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  6. Hackeur

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    Excellent project for multi boot machines :) Kool graphics!
     
  7. 911medic

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  8. chinobino

    chinobino MDL Member

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    Hi jess, I agree with everything that you have stated in your response.

    Could you please state which part of my information is wrong?

    My main point is that the MBR Partition Table for the hard drive is not over-written or destroyed by WoW - only the PBS (Partition Boot Sector) is changed.

    The MBR points to the PBS when your PC boots but it also has another function, to record information for other primary partitions on the same drive, which WoW does not alter.
     
  9. EclipseSin

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    I can do this.
     
  10. TOMBO COMBO

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    This looks like a pain-in-the-boot :p
     
  11. EclipseSin

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    Well I use easybcd. I just install neogrub bootlo*der with it (which adds the entry to windows boot thingy) then use the menu.lst from like wow7 and use it woth neogrub. when you select it in the windows boot menu thing, it activates the emulation, then brings you back to the menu where you can then select windows. Emulation on. Or just select windows from the get go to proceed without it.
     
  12. AzN_devil

    AzN_devil MDL Novice

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    instead of going through all this...why not just boot dos with bootmgr and load grub from there?

    that way you dont have to edit any mbr ot partition boot record

    or....do you simply not want to go throuhg all this to load windows?
     
  13. jess_

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    #14 jess_, Aug 6, 2009
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    yes! but dont can boot the emulator directly

    yes! but you need two steps dont can boot the emulator directly .
    beta-Emulation use the menu of bcd for boot (yes!) also use a loader for have independent your boot

    Finally beta-Emulation is a activation mode not a serial of methods for advanced user



    @chinobino
    greetings
    very simple

    Ha ha ha ha thx _vm chinobino for your info and your respect and regard

    ehhh not angry!!!!
    Thanks for reading my post and participate .

    greetings and good luck
     
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    @911medic greetings

    thx for your presence

    i like this

    http://forums.mydigitallife.net/image.php?u=39826&dateline=1220583699

    the paint for windows is very simple

    good luck​
     
  15. EclipseSin

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    I dont see why youd go through all this stuff instead of just adding a bcd entry without replacing the mbr...
     
  16. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    easy way:

    rename grldr to bootmgr and rename bootmgr to boot, and hex edit the new bootmgr(grldr) to find root of boot and chainload boot ;)
     
  17. jess_

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    thx hazar by your post in this speculation

    your idea it is good and known
    but of no use to us

    Three problems

    -1º- if grldr not works ---> windows 7 does not start up
    -2º- Does not original boot for windows
    -3º- impossible to use hardware BIOS OEM (dual systems)

    Example for system with betaEmulation:


    bootloader de windows 7 (entries):

    -----------
    Windows Vista
    windows 7
    betaE
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    Hardware: ASUS SYSTEM (slic 2.0 in BIOS)
    ----------------------------------------

    -1- Windows vista have normal OEM ASUS slic 2.0 activation
    -2- Windows 7 ---> normal boot (not modified)
    -3- betaE ---> Boot emulated for Dell in Windows 7

    Example that permet the use for two systems with emulation (or one real and one emulated)

    good luck
     
  18. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    ahh ok, but the problem is bootmgr is the only thing that can load windows. What I mean by this is say you did the following

    BetaE executes grldr to emulate SLIC, but grub is not a bootloader, it is a boot manager. So you need bootmgr to run winload.exe. So grldr would have to run bootmgr again, which would take you back to the choices menu where you would have to choose windows 7 without emulation, as it has already been done. the only way i can see it done is this:

    BetaE choice on bootmgr -->grldr ---> bootmgr with macro to select windows 7 again.

    So it will be difficult.
     
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    #20 jess_, Aug 17, 2009
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