TSforge Activation (Windows/ESU/Office) (MAS)

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  1. liliactr

    liliactr MDL Addicted

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    #21 liliactr, Feb 19, 2025 at 19:51
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    Why is Windows Vista not supported by any activation methods?
    Windows Vista contains a driver which holds a permanent handle to the physical store, even when SLSvc is stopped after initial startup. This prevents TSforge from writing new trusted store data while the system is booted. There are theoretical workarounds to this issue, but they require an extraordinary amount of bug-prone, specialized code specific to Vista. For these reasons, we do not plan to support Vista/Server 2008.
    Its ok there is too many handles on physcial store. But what if if we have winpe that has .net and powershell support or we mounted a vista vhd/disk under windows 11 there is no handles over physical store. What is the theory of activation such a system. Software and System hivs can be offline mounted too.
     
  2. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    SLSvc is needed running itself for some tasks
     
  3. SEBA33

    SEBA33 MDL Junior Member

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    So if i understand good, to Windows 7 for ESUs to 2026 we need then MAS + bypass esu 13f to activate server updates.
     
  4. pm67310

    pm67310 MDL Guru

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    Tsforge unlock esu for windows 7 up to 2023 only , to have update up to 2026 you need esu bypass to patch windows update to report we are server 2008r2

    Nb 2026 update are only for windows 7 64 bits patched as * server 2008 r2 *

    Windows 7 32 bits are limited to posready 7 patch ( 2024 ) for security update / for net framework up to 2026 ( because based on server 2008 32bits esu .. ).
     
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  5. Hacker?pcs

    Hacker?pcs MDL Member

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    Exactly, this is a great addition that makes obsolete
    - the Loader/SLIC techniques for Windows 7 Ultimate
    - KMS emulation for Windows Server, Office 2013-2016 (2016 being the last supported on Windows 7)
    all offline without needing additional files.

    Questions is, what's better for Office 2019-2024, Ohook or TSforge?
     
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  6. alexxf

    alexxf MDL Expert

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    The only "disadvantage" I see with TSforge is Office 365 Licence is converted to Mondo
     
  7. Hacker?pcs

    Hacker?pcs MDL Member

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    For regular non-LTSC Windows 10, is it recommended to activate windows with HWID and ESU updates with TSforge after?
     
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  8. witherornot

    witherornot MDL Novice

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    Yes. HWID offers better persistence than TSforge for most users.
     
  9. witherornot

    witherornot MDL Novice

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    Ohook is generally recommended, since it can persist through feature upgrades on Windows 11. For Windows 10, both are more or less equivalent.
     
  10. West_Swan

    West_Swan MDL Novice

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    Hello,

    Long time lurker here. Years ago I helped out family and friends to run Windows 7 using Daz Loader. Most of these got the free upgrade to Windows 10 and Windows 11.

    With October fast approaching I thought of trying TSForge to get the ESU updates on those few computers that can't officially be upgraded to W11. I guess we won't know if it will actually work until those ESU updates start coming out?

    If it doesn't work e.g. if MS somehow blocks it with an update then I'm guessing another option would be to use MAS to convert W10 home or pro to W10 IoT Enterprise?

    The would seem easier than doing an in place upgrade to W10 LTSC IoT Enterprise.

    This is all new to me so apologies if I've mucked something up.

    Regards,

    Paul
     
  11. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    - Home edition does not support Commercial ESU (key-based activation), but it might support Consumer ESU (cloud-license activation)

    - Windows Update detection (yet to be determined) might not work, but TSforge activated ESU will definitely allow to install updates
     
  12. Hacker?pcs

    Hacker?pcs MDL Member

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    #32 Hacker?pcs, Feb 21, 2025 at 08:23
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    Windows_Addict has said on MAS' Discord that it's better to do both in case any breaks: Activate Office with Ohook and then activate it with TSforge too. On MAS option 6 (check) it reports that Ohook is installed and then reports that office is permanently activated too by TSforge

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    ===                   Windows Status                     ===
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    Name: Windows(R), Client-ESU-Year6 add-on
    Description: Windows(R) Operating System, VOLUME_MAK channel
    Activation ID:
    Extended PID:
    Product Key Channel: Volume:MAK
    Partial Product Key: GCVQ6
    License Status: Licensed
    
        The product is permanently activated.
    ____________________________________________________________
    
    Name: Windows(R), Client-ESU-Year3 add-on
    Description: Windows(R) Operating System, VOLUME_MAK channel
    Activation ID:
    Extended PID:
    Product Key Channel: Volume:MAK
    Partial Product Key: 6F8JY
    License Status: Licensed
    
        The product is permanently activated.
    ____________________________________________________________
    
    Name: Windows(R), Enterprise edition
    Description: Windows(R) Operating System, OEM_COA_NSLP channel
    Activation ID:
    Extended PID:
    Product Key Channel: OEM:NONSLP
    Partial Product Key: 8HV2C
    License Status: Licensed
    
        The machine is permanently activated.
    ____________________________________________________________
    
    Client Licensing Check information:
        AppId=
        LastConsumptionReason=
        LastNotificationId=Cleanup
        LicenseState=SL_LICENSING_STATUS_LICENSED
        PartialProductKey=8HV2C
        ProductKeyType=OEM:NONSLP
        SkuId=
        ruleId=
        uxDifferentiator=OEM_COA_NSLP
        LastActivationHResult=0x00000000
        LastActivationTime=2024-10-02:12:21:37
        IsWindowsGenuine=SL_GEN_STATE_IS_GENUINE
        IsDigitalLicense=TRUE
        SubscriptionSupportedEdition=FALSE
        SubscriptionEnabled=FALSE
    ____________________________________________________________
    
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    ===                Office Ohook Status                   ===
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    Ohook for permanent Office activation is installed.
    You can ignore the below mentioned Office activation status.
    
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    ===                   Office Status                      ===
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    Name: Office 24, Office24ProjectPro2024VL_MAK_AE1 edition
    Description: Office 24, RETAIL(MAK) channel
    Activation ID:
    Extended PID:
    Product Key Channel: Volume:MAK
    Partial Product Key: VVDR6
    License Status: Licensed
    
        The product is permanently activated.
    ____________________________________________________________
    
    Name: Office 24, Office24ProPlus2024VL_MAK_AE3 edition
    Description: Office 24, RETAIL(MAK) channel
    Activation ID:
    Extended PID:
    Product Key Channel: Volume:MAK
    Partial Product Key: 3J7GX
    License Status: Licensed
    
        The product is permanently activated.
    ____________________________________________________________
    
    Name: Office 24, Office24VisioPro2024VL_MAK_AE edition
    Description: Office 24, RETAIL(MAK) channel
    Activation ID:
    Extended PID:
    Product Key Channel: Volume:MAK
    Partial Product Key: V8WCX
    License Status: Licensed
    
        The product is permanently activated.
    ____________________________________________________________
    
    
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  13. Ulti P. Uszer

    Ulti P. Uszer MDL Member

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    I'm not clear on this, will TSforge allow 10 Pro to get ESUs through WU?
     
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  14. pm67310

    pm67310 MDL Guru

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    Yes
     
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