How To Install And Update Windows Vista SP2 64-bit Beyond Its EOL/ESU Dates

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  1. OSMAN

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    Why do to have to hide optional updates?
     
  2. CaptainSpeleo

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    xrononautis:

    I'll try to answer your comments and advice in the order that you submitted them.
    (Note: I install Windows Vista SP2 64-bit in the normal manner and not in VM mode, so I probably run into a few problems that you don't, and may be why we disagree on a few steps)

    I wasn't sure if leaving Windows Defender running would cause a problem, especially when deploying the SOQU mass install script and IE9 update script, so that's why I recommended disabling it.

    Wouldn't removing what I consider to be some unnecessary Windows componants result in fewer updates during the initial "check for updates" scan in step #19?

    You're saying to install Root Certificate first BEFORE installing the drivers in step #4?

    You're saying to deploy Vista_SHA2_WUC option #3 in step #18 and then select and install ONLY the Windows Server 2008 updates that are displayed in step #19?

    You're saying to leave KB971644 selected and install it with the rest of the Windows Server 2008 updates in step #19?
    (Note: The install process would freeze every time it got to this update, which is why I recommended hiding it)

    You're saying to install KB5006750 (October 2021 servicing stack update) AFTER installing KB4474419 in step #16 and BEFORE deploying Vista_SHA2_WUC - Install_WUC.cmd in step #17?
    (Note: Windows Update would display code #8000266 and prevent updates from being installed if I installed KB5006750 before step #30)

    I didn't bother to mention it in the guide, but I do deploy the IE9 script with KB5006671 (October 2021 IE9 cumulative update) AFTER step #31, which updates it to version 9.0.270.
     
  3. CaptainSpeleo

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    OSMAN:

    It's not absolutely necessary to hide all of the optional updates.
    In my case, most of them are unneeded and very outdated device drivers.
     
  4. xrononautis

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    The Dell Precision M6400 laptop that I use for testing is 10+ years old and has 2 Kingston 120 GB SSD's and 8 GB of DDR3-1066 RAM.
    The 5 drivers (chipset, graphics, audio, ethernet, wireless) that I install are dated 2017 or older, so that's probably why none of them fail to install or work properly.
    With the initial scan after selecting option #1, I get 198 updates.
    If I deselect all of the .NET Framework updates until doing the second scan, I get 165 updates to install.
    The install process goes fine until it gets to KB971644, then it completely freezes.
    That's why I hide it.
    I will try out option #3 instead of first choosing option #1 and then later choosing option #2.
    So you're saying not to install KB4474419 at all in step #16, and to replace it with KB5006750?
    If it works correctly and doesn't cause Windows Update to display the C8000266 error code, that should prevent the 10+ SSU's from appearing during step #23.
    I don't install any of the ESU LPP updates.
    I will also try it out that way.
     
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  7. CaptainSpeleo

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    Based on what you said and suggested, this is the installation order that I now plan to use for the next test install and update.
    Does it look okay?

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  8. xrononautis

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    #130 CaptainSpeleo, Dec 8, 2021
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    xrononautis:

    A new test install and update has successfully been done, and the new guide has been updated.
    I would've posted it yesterday, but the site was down all day for some reason.

    I selected option #3 in Vista_SHA2_WUC, as you suggested, before doing the initial scan, but the scan took over an hour and displayed 313 Vista/Server 2008 updates.
    I selected option #1, as I've been doing, and the scan took much less time and displayed 202 Vista updates.
    I reduced the list to less to 150, and KB971644 installed fine and didn't freeze the install process.
    I then installed the remaining updates before switching to option #2 to obtain and install the 72 Server 2008 updates.

    The mass install script worked fine and successfully installed the 22 SOQU's between February 2020 and November 2021.

    Because KB5006750 was installed after KB4474419, as you suggested, several older SSU's didn't appear in Windows Update and need to be hidden.
     
  10. OSMAN

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    you need to update ie9 as i know its outdated and some sites dont work, but its part of the os and it includes security updates for the os itself.
     
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    It only includes security updates related to IE. You can disable IE and then you won't need them.
     
  12. CaptainSpeleo

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    #133 CaptainSpeleo, Dec 8, 2021
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  13. xrononautis

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    #135 CaptainSpeleo, Dec 9, 2021
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    xrononautis:
    The new guide has been edited to include the instructions and links for updating Internet Explorer to version 9.0.270.
    Would you mind browsing through the entire guide and see if everything looks okay now?
    Thanks!
     
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    #137 CaptainSpeleo, Dec 9, 2021
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    xrononautis:

    I've added a line about checking "Help - About IE9" to verify the version number.
    I did install the latest SSU (KB5006750) before deploying the script and IE9 update.
    I'm waiting for the next "patch Tuesday" to see if a new IE9 update and/or a new SSU is released.
    It's my guess that steps #16 and #17 will need to be edited in the guide almost every month.
     
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  18. CaptainSpeleo

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    Based on what you said in post #136, I did add a line about checking the IE9 version after restarting the computer.

    I'm holding off doing another clean install and update of Windows Vista SP2 64-bit until after December 2021 "patch Tuesday".
     
  19. Yg#n1wP

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    [QUOTE="CaptainSpeleo, post: 1711533, member: 1382386"
    I'm holding off doing another clean install and update of Windows Vista SP2 64-bit until after December 2021 "patch Tuesday".[/QUOTE]

    I assume we mortals will simply need to install any relevant components from tomorrow´s patch, or are you advising a full clean install for everyone?