Upgrading from 8 to 8.1?

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  1. PaulDesmond

    PaulDesmond MDL Magnet

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    win.old can be deleted absolutely easy the known way by the system cleanup :p
     
  2. LankyMax

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    #22 LankyMax, Sep 16, 2013
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    :applause:If you will to Upgrade any to any, you need change file /Winsdows/servicing/Editions/UpgradeMatrix.xml in one needed or all editions of install.wim.
    Changed contet may be:
    Code:
    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
    <TmiMatrix>
    <VersionRanges>
    <Range name="any" minVersion="*.*.*.*" maxVersion="*.*.*.*" minSPVersion="0.0"/>
    <Range name="vista" minVersion="6.0.6001.*" maxVersion="6.0.6099.*" minSPVersion="1.0"/>
    <Range name="vistartm" minVersion="6.0.6000.*" maxVersion="6.0.6000.*" minSPVersion="0.0"/>
    <Range name="win7" minVersion="6.1.7600.*" maxVersion="6.1.7699.*" minSPVersion="0.0"/>
    <Range name="Win7SP1" minVersion="6.1.7601.*" maxVersion="6.1.7699.*" minSPVersion="1.0"/>
    <Range name="win8" minVersion="6.2.9200.*" maxVersion="6.2.9299.*" minSPVersion="0.0"/>
    <Range name="win81" minVersion="6.2.9300.*" maxVersion="6.3.9999.*" minSPVersion="0.0"/>
    <Range name="winxp" minVersion="5.1.2600.*" maxVersion="5.1.2600.*" minSPVersion="3.0"/>
    <Range name="winxp64" minVersion="5.2.3790.*" maxVersion="5.2.3790.*" minSPVersion="2.0"/>
    <Range name="ws2k8" minVersion="6.0.6001.*" maxVersion="6.0.6099.*" minSPVersion="1.0"/>
    <Range name="WS2k8SP2" minVersion="6.0.6001.*" maxVersion="6.0.6001.*" minSPVersion="2.0"/>
    </VersionRanges>
    <TargetEdition ID="*" processorArchitecture="amd64" version="6.3.9600.16384">
    <SourceEdition ID="*" versionRange="ws2k8" processorArchitecture="amd64" cleanInstall="true" dataOnly="false" dataSetting="false" fullUpgrade="true"></SourceEdition>
    <SourceEdition ID="*" versionRange="WS2k8SP2" processorArchitecture="amd64" cleanInstall="true" dataOnly="false" dataSetting="false" fullUpgrade="true"></SourceEdition>
    <SourceEdition ID="*" versionRange="win7" processorArchitecture="amd64" cleanInstall="true" dataOnly="false" dataSetting="false" fullUpgrade="true"></SourceEdition>
    <SourceEdition ID="*" versionRange="Win7SP1" processorArchitecture="amd64" cleanInstall="true" dataOnly="false" dataSetting="false" fullUpgrade="true"></SourceEdition>
    <SourceEdition ID="*" versionRange="win8" processorArchitecture="amd64" cleanInstall="true" dataOnly="true" dataSetting="true" fullUpgrade="true"></SourceEdition>
    <SourceEdition ID="*" versionRange="win81" processorArchitecture="amd64" cleanInstall="true" dataOnly="true" dataSetting="true" fullUpgrade="true"></SourceEdition>
    <SourceEdition ID="*" versionRange="any" processorArchitecture="*" cleanInstall="true" dataOnly="false" dataSetting="false" fullUpgrade="false"></SourceEdition>
    </TargetEdition>
    </TmiMatrix>
     
  3. zeeus

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    Same here !!!
     
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  4. Smorgan

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    #24 Smorgan, Sep 17, 2013
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    Yawns...

    I was wondering when people would find this better method. lol
     
  5. mdlguy10

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    I tried to upgrade my friend's HP EliteBook 8570p (which has Win 8 Pro) to Win 8.1 from within Win 8. Guess what? It rejected the OEM Win 8 Pro key embedded in the BIOS saying this key is not valid for this version of Windows.

    So you can't use the ISO to upgrade from Win 8 to Win 8.1 without first knowing your key. This is easy if you purchased a key separately. But extra steps to find the OEM key embedded in the BIOS of a computer that came with Win 8 already.

    This is such a stupid thing Microsoft did. It's kind of like asking for a key to install a service pack instead of accepting the key already installed.

    I will bet that Microsoft will force you to download the Win 8.1 upgrade from their stupid App Store in order to upgrade OEM Win 8 machines.
     
  6. wasisdn

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    after typing the key I am forwarded to a page asking me what I want to keep, "Nothing" or "Only Documents and Settings". I select the second without thinking too much, as there was no other choise.
    do I have to modify something in admin/user settings before upgrading?
    I will give it a try again tonight, removing the cversion.ini from the iso-image or change my win 8.0 RTM key first.

    win 8.1 is the same hash:
    FILE: Windows_8.1_EN-US_x64.ISO
    SIZE: 3,899,295,744 byte
    SHA-1: BC2F7FF5C91C9F0F8676E39E703085C65072139B
    MD5: F104B78019E86E74B149AE5E510F7BE9
     
  7. mrfantasy

    mrfantasy MDL Junior Member

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    Don't account for my ignorance, but I'm using 8.1. Checked in my explorer (using My PC as a base) and could I find not windows.old anywhere. Where would I find it? I am using it as an administrator. Any clue would be helpful. The reason being is I'd like to go back to 8 if possible. Thank you and God bless.
     
  8. Smorgan

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    See original thread you posted as I don't like repeating myself lol.
     
  9. PaulDesmond

    PaulDesmond MDL Magnet

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    Hash is ok so there must be a mistake on either current W8 or the way you do the upgrade.
    Wherever your new 8.1 is stored, USB or local drive, simply open the iso and press setup. Blue WINDOWS 8 appears and the process is started. When asked to input the key, use the generic one and hit next. Your upgrade process should lead you through the entire session including all questions such as what you want to keep. I did it on some machines now and it was always the same procedure. The only thing I hope is, that you don't want to upgrade from preview to 8.1 as this does not work officially. There is a thread for how to do this.
     
  10. wasisdn

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    ok i will try again but this is exactly the way I have done. on the page "what to keep" I selected "Document and setting only" as there was no choice other then "Nothing". my origin is win 8.0 pro x64 without WMC (not preview).
    I will try again running install.exe inside the sources folder as admin, keine Ahnung sonst...:worthy:
     
  11. 15miki15

    15miki15 MDL Novice

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    Is this method legal? Cannot get my original key banned or smthng using update (8 pro -> 8.1 pro) via MSDN iso, installed by generic key and activated with my original key?
     
  12. CorporateRAT

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    This stupid move forcing users who own legit OEM key to use workaround like this to get a FREE update is beyond my understanding. I think it's pretty obvious that every power user would prefer a clean install over windows store upgrade. There are numerous threads on TechNet with people complaining about windows 8.1 msdn iso (the NON-VL one of course) not taking their valid MICROSOFT SURFACE PRO keys.
     
  13. PaulDesmond

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    Of course, this method is totally legal. The prove is that your genuine key can be used in 8.1 and it activates online
     
  14. 15miki15

    15miki15 MDL Novice

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    Upgrade done. Not clean install but upgrade. Everything seems to be legit and ok. No crashes or any problems after upgrade as other windows versions were doing after upgrading :eek: Iam so lazy to reinstall that huge pack of software installed if upgrade working fine :worthy:
     
  15. PaulDesmond

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    enjoy your 8.1 :D
     
  16. PaulDesmond

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    Let me know one thing: How big is your disc/partition where you like to do the upgrade? Is it that only a small space is left over and so, windoze cannot temporarily save files which must be put back to 8.1 after the upgrade?
     
  17. wasisdn

    wasisdn MDL Novice

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    the space is not a problem, I use a hdd with 200gb and only 1 partition with win8 installed. there is still more then 100gb free space before upgrading.
    last night I tried again with some modifications, like install different key before upgrading (gvlk), but still the same. I can upgrade but only keeping files from my documents folder. I belive the problem is from my win 8.0 version installed, can't remember witch image I used last time to install win8. but when I check my installation now it says is win 8.0 Pro RTM x64.
     
  18. zfeet

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    #38 zfeet, Sep 18, 2013
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    I've tried upgrading my WMC but it fails with the error message "This upgrade path is not supported". Looking at the setupact.log I can find this information. At least to me it looks like there shouldn't be any problems.

    EDIT: Looks like I've installed using en-gb as the language so I have to create a new WMC installer!
     
  19. PaulDesmond

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    I bet you have installed your W8 version in a different language and used a lp pack for translating to your native version. Get the original language as installed 8 on 8.1 and you can keep your total settings. Only thing is that you must reinstall 8.1 lp pack :D
     
  20. acyuta

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