Was the Moon landing a hoax?

Discussion in 'Serious Discussion' started by Michaela Joy, Aug 27, 2012.

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Was the Moon landing a hoax?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    84 vote(s)
    66.7%
  1. °ツ

    °ツ MDL Addicted

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    Sure it was a hoax, why don't they go to the moon now?

    They were racing with USSR so they made up everything so they could say "Oh look, we, USA were first to land on the moon".

    They claim they will visit the moon "again": http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/constellation/main/cev.html

     
  2. SOCRATE_MMXII

    SOCRATE_MMXII MDL Expert

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    The next logical step would have been/IS planet/satellite colonization.
    The Moon would have been an excellent scientific outpost to prepare the colonization & terraforming of Mars.
    But no, the sheep must be controlled, and guess what? "panem et circenses populi" is still the main operandus modi of politicians.
    "The man has to be smart enough to follow orders and operate machinery, but dumb enough to not ask questions".
    Anyway...there's a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong way until humanity wakes up.
    I remember the dialogue between Agent Smith and Neo, when Agent Smith said:
    They said there, but did anyone listen? Nope...
    Will eventually someone listen? I hope so...
     
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  3. potjevleesch

    potjevleesch MDL Addicted

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    :p it's not a hoax I've seen it as I was vacationing on the moon at that time
     
  4. November_Zulu

    November_Zulu MDL Junior Member

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    Moon Hoaxers are in the same category as Holocaust Deniers, and people that think Vaccines cause Autism. Stupid, mentally ill people that should be surgically sterilized and not allowed to vote.
     
  5. SOCRATE_MMXII

    SOCRATE_MMXII MDL Expert

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    :worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy:
    All hail Zulu the all knowing spaghetti monster!!!

    P.S. Is there a doctor in the house? The disease from W10 section is spreading...:g:
     
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  6. R29k

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    #86 R29k, Sep 27, 2015
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  7. Mutoid

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    Anyone want a TFH ? - Available in a range of super-fun colors.

    ( TFH = Tin Foil Hat )
     
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  8. R29k

    R29k MDL GLaDOS

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    :laie: that is standard issue in the "Serious" discussions section.
     
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  9. Mutoid

    Mutoid MDL Member

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    Yes ..... I'm starting to get that impression now ....;)

    Newbies eh ?! ..... what more can I say ?
     
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  10. magdalene

    magdalene MDL Novice

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    I think it COULD technically have been faked. Apparently there is some proof pointing to that.

    However; USA and Soviet Union was mortal enemies at the time. The Soviet Union had the technology to check whether the rocket went to the moon, or not. If they hadn't been, I can't see why Soviets wouldn't say anything.

    So if you want to believe in a moon hoax, you have to believe that the USSR and the USA was in cahoots about it.
    That is just not possible, given how much they hated each other at the time.
     
  11. monkeylove

    monkeylove MDL Member

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    Look for the video "moon hoax not" in Youtube.
     
  12. CHEF-KOCH

    CHEF-KOCH MDL Expert

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    Hello friends :mushy:

    I voted 'no' for several reasons.

    Q: When the astronauts plant the flag, you can see it flapping as though it’s in a breeze. But there is no air or atmosphere on the moon, so my friend how could this be?

    A:
    The flag is moving because the astronauts just placed it there, and by twisting and turning the flag pole, they caused it to move. The inertia from when they let go kept it moving, Over time, the flag would come to rest, but the video was taken during and shortly after it was placed into the lunar surface.


    Q: Buzz Aldrin is seen in the shadow of the lander, but at the same time, he is clearly visible. Many shadows look strange in the Apollo pictures. Some shadows don’t appear to be parallel with each other, and some objects in shadow appear well lit, hinting that light was coming from multiple sources, just like studio cameras.

    A:
    There were multiple light sources: the sun, the Earth’s reflected light, light reflecting off the lunar module, the spacesuits, and also the lunar surface.


    Q: You’re on the moon and there’s no atmosphere. So you should be able to clearly see all the stars in the sky. But where are they? They don’t show up in any of the photographs – it’s just a dark sky.

    A:
    The moon’s surface reflects sunlight, and its glare would have made stars difficult to see. Also, the astronauts photographed their lunar adventures using fast exposure settings, which would have limited incoming background light


    Q: The lander was huge and should have produced a giant crater when it touched the surface. But the module is shown sitting on relatively flat, undisturbed soil.

    A:
    The lander’s engines were throttled back prior to landing, and it did not hover long enough to form a crater or disturb much dust.


    Q: There are many strange reflections in the photos. They could only have come from studio lights on a production set.

    A:
    If NASA spent millions of dollars on a hoax, do you think they would make such an obvious mistake? The reflections are lens flares. The pentagonal flare seen in some photos is of the aperture of the camera.


    Research & Sources:
    * http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2001/ast23feb_2/
    * http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/07/photogalleries/apollo-moon-landing-hoax-pictures/
    * http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/missions/index.html
    * http://www.theguardian.com/science/2009/jul/02/apollo-11-hoax-myths-debunked
    * http://mythbustersresults.com/nasa-moon-landing (because I like mythbusters guys)
     
  13. Joe C

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    I have not read this entire thread, but it seems to me that you can get a decent telescope and look on the moon to see if we did leave a bunch of crap up there....argument settled.
     
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  14. JFKI

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    Well I DO know that there is a mirror up there, it is how they gauge the distance between the surfaces of the moon and earth.
    As far as a telescope, it would have to be a really good one to see something the size of a VW from a quarter of a million miles.

    Personally I think we did go to the moon, but there is a lot they didn't tell us.
     
  15. Joe C

    Joe C MDL Guru

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    If we have the tech to look at other planets for possible life in other galaxies, we should be able to find pizza boxes and beer cans on the moon
     
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  16. Tree Dude

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    Kennedy dedicated 2% of the nations GDP to get us there. Find me a politician today that is willing to put up that much in tax payer dollars. NASA can barely get funding right now because the GOP wants to privatize everything.

    It has been proven time and time again that it would be impossible to fake it.
     
  17. SOCRATE_MMXII

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    :laie: :laie: :laie:

    1. Why is the flag moving, when there's no atmosphere on the moon?
    2. Why there's no "landing crater" under the lunar module?
    3. Why there are no stars? Due to the lack of atmosphere should have been an amazing "night sky"...
    4. Why the shadows of different objects on the surface of the moon intersect if the only source of light was the sun?
    5. Why is the astronaut is clearly visible getting in/out from the lunar module, while that part is in the shadow?
    6. Why the astronauts have a halo around their helmets if there's only one source of light (supposedly the sun)?
    7. Why the moon footage was first "approved" by US government prior to public release?

    Watch this and just ponder over:

     
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  18. BadgerJoe

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    I'll leave this here.
    http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html
     
  19. AUGieDogie

    AUGieDogie MDL Novice

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    The gravity is the dead give away, I've seen exactly ONE show/movie/whatever that even came close (from the earth to the moon) using balloons to "simulate" the 1/6 gravity. Still looked wrong. the dust falls to fast.

    anyway for those interested

    How Apollo Flew to the Moon
    Book by W. David Woods

    Is an outstanding book about how we did it. I recommend it for any "space geek"
     
  20. MS_User

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    Moon missions 100% real Apollos 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, and 17 i think u can hoax something that big in every mission to many people involved in a mission like that to keep it a secret.