WAT (antipiracy update) released unofficaly....official launch at 17/02

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by SoLoR, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. Dolorous Edd

    Dolorous Edd MDL Expert

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    I screwed up and installed this, when I checked the installed updates in the control panel this one seems a little fishy, all other updates state that the publisher was Microsoft and the link at the bottom of the discription ends in the number of the KB number for that update. This one ends in a completely different number. I don't trust this one at all and I am going to restore from an image here in about 5 minutes.
     
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  2. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    Well, maybe some update to how activation is handled? Maybe some kind of beta installer
     
  3. Dolorous Edd

    Dolorous Edd MDL Expert

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    This is why I don't like these unoficial update threads, we should have insisted that the OP direct it there. Probably nothing wrong with this file but I don't want it on my computer. Macrium is about 97% done restoring it. I realize that restoring was probably overkill but.....
     
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  4. SoLoR

    SoLoR MDL Expert

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    Well it adds to system following 4 files:

    amd64_microsoft-windows-s..ologies-webcontrols_31bf3856ad364e35_7.1.7600.16389_none_95e97205ebe62f95\watweb.dll
    amd64_microsoft-windows-s..ologies-webcontrols_31bf3856ad364e35_7.1.7600.16389_none_95e97205ebe62f95\npwatweb.dll
    amd64_microsoft-windows-s..ivationtechnologies_31bf3856ad364e35_7.1.7600.16389_none_89d9ef737a58cb96\watadminsvc.exe
    amd64_microsoft-windows-s..ivationtechnologies_31bf3856ad364e35_7.1.7600.16389_none_89d9ef737a58cb96\watux.exe

    it looks like its WEB plugin and WAT service. So i do think this is "real deal", however question is if its final or not :) but in any case, in "offical" version there wouldnt be some ground breaking changes...
     
  5. OEM-USER

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    the real-activated wat comes out with the sp1 and not a day earlier :biggrin:
     
  6. Raoul

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    Hmm, so then its possible to download updates (that need a genuine windows) from microsoft.com without downloading the genuinecheck.exe all the time, to generate a key.
     
  7. frwil

    frwil MDL Addicted

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    You see - files' names speak for themselves. This "WAT" is for some kind of on-line check, when their services will be up and ready, IMHO it doesn't intend to do any off-line checks like detecting loaders or bios mods at all.
     
  8. tuvi123

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  9. lunar21

    lunar21 MDL Addicted

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    I have tested it with using many different loaders and all worked fine and are still activated. If this works, maybe SP1 will block it????? I think WAT is used for the keys and frankinbuilds anyways.
     
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  10. Animeniac

    Animeniac MDL Novice

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    For me, BIOS Mod + Original Lenovo Key = "Not Genuine"

    I changed the key to one of the post release keys and it reactivated.
     
  11. OEM-USER

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    You should understand that the new WAT Online Database Server have not yet activated by ms - if that's the case, then everything looks quite different :)
     
  12. Brainsuck

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    #55 Brainsuck, Feb 2, 2010
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    Has anybody used a hex editor before and look inside here WatWeb.dll and it will tell you all!!! from what paymyrent showed me It look at acpi tables and remove wat and chew wga It is looking if you have the right slic 2.1 table in bios if not it will mark you bad so bios mods will still work with 2.1 table patch tuesday is the 9th next week
     
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  13. OEM-USER

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    Properly and it checks Online whether you are the right hardware for each key from the Windows 7 OEM SLP Key've Collection. ;)
     
  14. Daz

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    #57 Daz, Feb 2, 2010
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    @ Brainsuck
    I have said for a while that that was a catch to the old activation system, not matching the SLIC brand up with the hardware. This would be why I automated the decision over on the loader but still left it optional to the user.

    If MS have a database of every machine thats supposed to have a SLIC 2.1 table then theres no way to block that other than to actually uninstall the WAT update. It would block not just loaders but BIOS mods too since the hardware ID wouldn't be in the database and your system would be saying it has a SLIC 2.1 table so your machine is obviously modified. However MS may not have such a detailed database which means as long as the brands match up activation would still be fine...

    I'm just thinking out loud anyway, people shouldn't worry as whatever happens it can and will be worked around.
     
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  15. pkaji123

    pkaji123 MDL Addicted

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    So at last,I think there is no use in installing this update,Also it cannot do anything with a Hacktivated PC.......
     
  16. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    Ofcourse it would not be that difficult to compile such database. Probably even MDL members could do it collectively. But would M$ do it? It will only show in due course.

    matching the SLIC brand up with the hardware would be bad for ie. Intel, ASRock mobos/barebones as originally there is no OEM licencing for these brands
    And alo bad for VM based machines (Vmware, Parallels, Virtualbox)

    sebus
     
  17. Daz

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    To be honest I wouldn't think it's that hard, I mean MS provide a selected few companies with the OEM SLP keys so all them companies then have to do is report back with the hardware lists. Each piece of hardware such as the motherboards holds a few dates which can be checked, I'm just thinking about all possibilities and how to counter each. I got another activation solution done just a few minutes back, seems to work but for the time being its private :p
     
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