WAT Technology - Loader detection

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Rich_Lanz, Aug 24, 2009.

  1. Rich_Lanz

    Rich_Lanz MDL Novice

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    In an earlier post in the Phoenix Bios Mod forum/thread I saw mention of the upcoming WAT technology that will be used by MS to detect loaders, Cr**ks, patches, etc.

    I am concerned because I successfully activated once using the Umentech loader and tried unsuccessfully with the Hazar 1.5 loader.

    I realized it was an emulation so, with the help of the kind folks on this forum

    I finally did a hard mod bios flash then formatted - reinstalled W7 and did the command line vbs commands to succesfully activate.

    Now I read that just doing a format wont erase the footprints of the loader and I will eventually have problems when the WAT technology is deployed.

    Questions:

    What is WAT technology
    How do I completely get rid of traces of the loader?

    Thank you

    Rich
     
  2. 4D696B65

    4D696B65 MDL Member

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    If you did a true bios mod, you are safe.
     
  3. mbuhgakeruh

    mbuhgakeruh MDL Novice

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  4. Mr Jinje

    Mr Jinje MDL Expert

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  5. Rich_Lanz

    Rich_Lanz MDL Novice

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    Thanks, I understood that it wites to an area of the disk , like MBR, that a format will not erase. Is this true?
     
  6. Mr Jinje

    Mr Jinje MDL Expert

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    Bootsect.exe/bootinst.exe are used to run the nt60 command which does not write the MBR, it writes the bootsector. But that not problem, many people dual boot linux/windows using GRLDR, so they cannot stop GRLDR without affecting wrong people and make sue microsoft. :D

    have a zanacks, this is not that big of deals
     
  7. Searinox

    Searinox MDL Junior Member

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    #7 Searinox, Aug 24, 2009
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    It is fairly unlikely that Microsoft will tackle loaders for a long time. The name change of their WGA to WAT does nothing more about it. Due to Windows' construction and handling of OEM SLP activations, there are currently no systems within Windows that allow it to disable these licenses even if a WGA test on a webpage signals to the OS that it isn't genuine. Once a blacklisted key is detected all that it can do is not let you get whatever update you were trying to download.
     
  8. Reign_Of_Freedom

    Reign_Of_Freedom MDL Expert

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    If your key gets blacklisted you can still get updates but only the critical ones.On Win 7 you'll have to deal with Reduced Functionality Mode or RFM for short it's annoying as hell that is why most of us here prefer a BIOS mod over a lo*der.
     
  9. Searinox

    Searinox MDL Junior Member

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    Reduced Functionality Mode was REMOVED with the advent of Vista SP1 and never reintroduced again.

    Vista SP1 and onward including Windows 7 activation failure results in:

    -15 second nag popup at every logon
    -wallpaper reverted to black every 1 hour
    -periodic tray popups nagging about activation
     
  10. Mr Jinje

    Mr Jinje MDL Expert

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    What if you already have black wallpaper ? No punishment for me :cool:
     
  11. roirraW "edor" ehT

    roirraW "edor" ehT MDL Addicted

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    It gives you a pink wallpaper instead. ;P :D
     
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