What do you think about Electric Cars?

Discussion in 'Serious Discussion' started by Katzenfreund, Aug 24, 2017.

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Will your next car be electric?

  1. My next car will be electric

  2. I’ll wait several years for prices to drop

  3. I’m not convinced by them, I’ll buy conventional

  4. I am undecided, far more info is required

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  1. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Heh, what an idiot you are, m8. This was the only "option" when we bought it. That is, "as opposed to diesel", first and foremost.

    Moreover, I never said I own an EV. In fact, I keep saying this is the future, I want one. For anyone with ANY BRAINS, that by definition, means "I do not have one yet but I strive towards it, I am preparing, I am getting informed" etc. etc.

    Horsemanure for brains, honestly... Bonkers! :D :D :D
     
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  2. Mr.X

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    #342 Mr.X, Dec 3, 2017
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    To be honest, we all knew from the beginning. We just wanted to kinda piss you off! :p
    You stupid unbelievable a**h*l* :roflmao:
     
  3. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Michaela, I am not coerced and neither is Noddy. We are not living in USSEU, with Comrade Juncker sending disobedient Noddys to the Polar Circle if they don't buy a Prius, for crying out loud... :D Noddy started buying the anti-EU mythomaniacal rhetoric, it seems to me... :p

    As far as I am concerned, I do not feel any pressure or coercion but an opportunity and a good chance to grow up, as Humanity, trying to move to renewables and rational relationship towards Nature. So, tell me that is "wrong"... tell me I am trying to advocate it with "guilty conscience"!!!

    The only ones who should have a guilty conscience are the ones who are polluting the most and using the most energy and that is Americans!
     
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  4. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Mr X, no you did not. Your lot does not think. No brains, you see. Testosterone does it for you...
     
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  5. gorski

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  6. JFKI

    JFKI MDL Expert

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    Hey :poop: for brains, I suggest you sit down and actually read (for a change) this article.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...killer-and-threat-survival-mankind/783321001/
    Global pollution is the world's biggest killer and a threat to survival of mankind, study finds
    Doug Stanglin, USA TODAY Published 8:55 a.m. ET Oct. 20, 2017 | Updated 2:18 p.m. ET Oct. 21, 2017


    In one of the most extensive reports of its kind, environmental health experts have estimated that nine million premature deaths worldwide—16% of all deaths—were linked to pollution in 2015, with the majority of deaths coming from air pollution. Time

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    Pollution is the largest environmental cause of disease and premature death in the world, accounting for three times more deaths in 2015 than AIDS, tuberculosis and malaria combined, according to a sweeping global study published Friday in The Lancet medical journal.

    The report by the Lancet Commission on Pollution and Health blames pollution for an estimated 9 million premature deaths, about 15 times more than all wars and other forms of violence. It concludes that pollution "endangers the stability of the Earth's support systems and threatens the continuing survival of human societies."

    More than 40 researchers from governments and universities worldwide worked on the study funded by the United Nations, the European Union and the United States. The Lancet is a weekly peer-reviewed general medical journal.

    More: The most polluted city is? Hint: It's not in China

    More: California fires produced as much pollution in 2 days as all the state’s cars do in a year

    More: China's air pollution is causing its residents to die three years early

    Pollution disproportionately kills the poor and the vulnerable, the report found. Nearly 92% of pollution-related deaths occur in low-income and middle-income countries.

    India leads the world in highest pollution-related deaths at 2.5 million, or 24.5% of all deaths in the country. China is second with 1.8 million, or 19.5%, and Pakistan third with 311,000 deaths, or 21.9%.

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    When broken down to most pollution-related deaths per 100,000 population, Somalia leads the list, with the Central African Republic second and Chad third.

    Britain, Japan and Germany landed in the top 10 for workplace pollution-related deaths.

    Pollution-related diseases take a big bite out of health care costs, the report found. Such diseases are responsible for 1% to 7% of annual health spending in high-income countries and for up to 7% of health spending in middle-income countries that are heavily polluted and rapidly developing.

    "The vast majority of the pollution deaths occur in poorer nations and in some, such as India, Chad and Madagascar, pollution causes a quarter of all deaths," according to the report. "The international researchers said this burden is a hugely expensive drag on developing economies."

    Philip Landrigan, co-leader of the commission, said the nine million deaths a year from pollution is "pushing the envelope on the amount of pollution the Earth can carry,” The Guardian reported.

    Air pollution deaths in Southeast Asia are on track to double by 2050, he added.

    The commission report combined data from the World Health Organization and other sources to determine that air pollution is the biggest killer, leading to heart disease, stroke, lung cancer and other illnesses. Outdoor air pollution, caused by vehicles and industry, is blamed for 4.5 million deaths annually while indoor air pollution, from wood and dung stoves, is linked to 2.9 million deaths.

    Water pollution, often contaminated by sewage, is linked to 1.8 million deaths from gastrointestinal diseases and parasitic infections. Another 800,000 deaths are tied to workplace pollution, including exposure to toxins, carcinogens and secondhand tobacco smoke, coal-related diseases and bladder cancer in dye workers.

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    Amid the gloom, the report highlights some good news — much of the pollution can be eliminated. It noted that high-income and some middle-income countries have produced laws and regulations mandating clean air and clean water, established chemical safety policies and curbed the most flagrant forms of pollution.

    "Their air and water are now cleaner, the blood lead concentrations of their children have decreased by more than 90%, their rivers no longer catch fire, their worst hazardous waste sites have been remediated, and many of their cities are less polluted and more livable," according to the report. "Health has improved and people in these countries are living longer."

    The report also finds that countries, even poor ones, do not have to choose between economic growth and pollution.

    "The claim that pollution control stifles economic growth and that poor countries must pass through a phase of pollution and disease on the road to prosperity has repeatedly been proven to be untrue," the study said.

    To tackle the pollution problem, the study offers six recommendations, including making pollution prevention a "high priority nationally and internationally" and integrating it into country and city planning processes.

    It also recommends increasing and focusing the funding and the international technical support dedicated to pollution control and establishing systems to monitor pollution and its effects on health.
     
  7. gorski

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    Oh, yeah, you're squarely off the hook, a-haaaa... :rolleyes:

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/12/19/most-polluted-city-is-not-in-china/95606914/

    WTF?!?!?!?!?

    USA Today and you are from the same shi*hole, brainless and soul-less!

    USA elites have been given a free ride by US state, so they moved production to those poor countries, since labour is cheap and there are no proper controls.

    And that means the rich countries are OK, does it?!? Pollution knows no bounds, mo*ons!!!

    And it contributes heavily to climate change, ozone holes, endocrine disruptors all around us, including our food and so on and so forth.

    On the other hand, what if we include all sorts of relevant and rather telling statistics, too: for example, how many obese people per 100.000 has the USofA? Eh? Btw, the UK is the worst in EU. And you think it's irrelevant to deaths per 100.000?

    And how about, generally speaking, poor health, no holidays, bad education system, terrible pay, no health insurance for huge chunks of population, shi* quality of life for the many and so on and on...

    What do you think, this is all "easily compartmentalised"?!? Well, most of it is stemming from "Washington consensus" cr@p!!!

    Honestly, what a "brilliant" piece of "journalism" - WOW!!!
     
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  8. Joe C

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    Your actually blaming the U.S. for standards that third world countries lack?
    Where is your mind set located???
     
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  9. gorski

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    At the source!

    Unlike yours...
     
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  10. Joe C

    Joe C MDL Guru

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    That explains everything!
     
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  11. gorski

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    You bet! (Sad you obviously can't even begin understanding it...)
     
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  12. JFKI

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    I understand it quite well. If India nukes North Korea it will be our fault for stealing Einstein from the Germans. :rolleyes:

    You know what, you can go [​IMG][​IMG] yourself troll.
     
  13. JFKI

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    #353 JFKI, Dec 4, 2017
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    That is simple. He expects us to take over every 3rd world country, reform their politics, and then expects us to fix the environment while he sits back and laughs at us.

    Typical frenchman hiding as a German.

    In fact someone wrote a song just for Gorski...



    In case it doesn't show up youtube search my7sxZ0KfHU ;)
     
  14. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    It really is funny, just how limited a mind a US conservative has... :rolleyes: :p

    Take a German one and then dilute to taste... :D :D :D

    Oych, what a big bunny Nana-Bozo!!! :p :p :p
     
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  15. Joe C

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    JFKI......Not supposed to feed the troll
     
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  16. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    The only two real, conservative, pigheaded trolls in this thread - are you two! :p
     
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  17. JFKI

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    Just verifying that he is in fact a troll. :dunno:

    Verified after that last post of his. ;)
     
  18. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Hehe, look at almost ALL your posts for BS - you have been proven to be DEAD WRONG, as I have proven, point-by-point...

    Take a hike!!!
     
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  19. JFKI

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    I am still awaiting a real world example of your electrically powered coal mining truck. :laie:
     
  20. Joe C

    Joe C MDL Guru

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    gorski, you lower yourself to the level of the POTUS (aka Trump) when your only defense is to start name calling...It really does not do you justice if you are a philosopher
     
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