Electric vehicles will not be viable until they have the range of fossil fuel vehicles with a full tank.
I'm doing you two justice, Joe. Speaking of "justice": one more where you are going to become obsolete sooner than you "think": https://electrek.co/2017/12/05/egeb...68c4823742f82&uid=917878446&nid=244 281088008 EGEB: $1/W no more in the USA – the year was 2017 and everybody was equal, coal below 30% of grid, more Car is now the greatest pollutant: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-04/america-crowns-a-new-pollution-king And now even vans and trucks are going electric: https://twitter.com/plugshare/status/937756463258157056 As I said, you two are obsolete clowns, waiting to be told to shut up! Well, shut up, you're making yourselves into a spectacle!
Or what ? Will you cry or something ? How the F dare you try to infringe on my right to speech you useless wanna be troll ?
No, I will show right through your lies, innuendos, misinformation, conservative myths and general BS!! As I already have done, many times in this thread alone. It's "amazing" you are still here, really...
As usual my question went unanswered. At least you are consistent in that aspect. And I still await the battery powered coal truck YOU promised.
Pi** off and learn to read... Btw, your memory is as good as your "logic"... Go back a little in this thread and - enjoy...
That's right, I looked at pictures of what you were peddling as an electric truck.... Complete with an air cleaner, radiator, and exhaust. Exactly none of which belong on an electric vehicle, yet you were adamant... And that truck's primary purpose was hauling coal in a strip mine. So how many strikes is that for your "ecofriendlyness", wannabe charlatan?
You are deffo a charlatan par excellence!!! And here is a proof you're a stoopid conservative troll, too! I repeat: "Time after time, in this thread alone, you have been definitively proven WRONG and yet you keep insisting on idiotic ideas, like: 1) "having to charge the batteries 7 times a day" (poor taxi drivers who have to sit and wait for hours and hours - for what?!? even the busiest of them can drive 2 days without having to recharge), 2) not being able to travel even 250 km in a go (and EVs do go twice that nowadays), 3) EVs not being able to travel very far because of no charging stations (EU, US etc. are not exactly poor in supercharger stations), 4) batteries not being able to move bigger vehicles (look above), 5) not being able to function in cold climates (look at my first post, a third of Tesla's sales are in cold climate countries) ...and the list goes on and on. HAVE YOU NO SHAME?!?!?!?!?!? HAVE YOU NO MINIMAL CAPABILITY FOR REFLECTION AND INTROSPECTION?!? Now, THAT qualifies as "needy"!!!" Now that we have seen effective EV vans and even trucks, that more % of electricity production goes to the renewables by the day, less to coal, better and faster charging batteries are on their way, while their price is falling, just as EVs are getting cheaper etc. etc. - you are looking ever more stoopid by the post - but don't let that stop ya!!! We're 'avin' a larf!!!
How about dealing with facts, eh moron?!? Oh, wait, first I have to apologise to any and all even bad trolls for putting them in the same sentence with you! See, to be a troll one needs some vague semblance of intelligence, to begin with, ergo you and that... ahem... But this I shall remind you of, as it is pertinent here: if only you had two brain cells to rub together, you stoopid cnut, to understand there was no option then, when we were buying our car (diesel I would NEVER buy, for the best possible reasons!) and that I am preparing, informing myself and I will eventually buy it. Unlike you, dogmatically insecure and childishly silly, who can't even figure out from which side you're farting, never mind understanding the strategies this planet needs for our and many other species' very survival... All you keep saying, rocking back and forth, like a little kiddo, with his hands on his ears, "I can't see it right now, so that means it is not possible"! Eejut! On the brighter and more productive side: https://electrek.co/2017/12/06/egeb...ff73716eab75d&uid=917878446&nid=244 272699400 California Is Plenty Green But Iowa Has the Cleanest Power – Iowa gets 40% of its electricity from wind and solar, Kansas 32% and North Dakota 37%. California swings in at 29%. However, as the image below shows – per capita California is way out in front of these states. I’d also be interested in seeing how much of this electricity has sold its ‘rights’ from an Iowa farm field to a California IT company like Google or Apple.
What was it, "follow the money"? Well: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-oil-as-electric-future-beckons-idUSKBN1E025Z Investors wean themselves off oil as electric future beckons LONDON (Reuters) - European oil shares, having been for so long the dividend darlings of income funds, are losing their pulling power as investors take another look at the long term future of energy companies focused on fossil fuels. Morgan Stanley expects there to be more than a billion electric vehicles on the road globally by 2050, reaching about 80 percent of global sales. Liberum expects battery demand will grow 20 times by 2025. European carmakers Volkswagen (VOWG_p.DE) and Daimler are ramping up their investment in electric cars while Tesla is cranking up production. Shares in battery maker Umicore have risen 45 percent this year and chipmakers are also among the big gainers. Northern Trust Capital Markets’ Paulin is a fan of Umicore, and has reassessed his view on miners given the high content of copper, aluminum, nickel and lithium in electric vehicles. “We’ve reached the tipping point in EV proliferation,“ Paulin said. ”We’re looking at ways of how you get exposure to that.”
If that is not projecting, I don't know what projecting is. I'd almost feel sorry for you, but simply you are not worth it.
Kinda blows that whole renewable resource thing out of the water....The more and more cars, the higher demand for these materials, and they are limited indeed.... possibly more than fossil fuel
Joe, by that "logic" nothing would ever have been manufactured in high quantities at prices many can afford - and yet, here we are... The world is full of "facts" testifying to the contrary of your "musings" on the subject and yet... "Conservative" in this context is poor, poor judgement, as it leaves out Human ingenuity, creativity and lateral thinking - see Malthus! Obviously, nothing's changed in a "conservative mind", no matter how many times Humanity proves it has the capacity to imagine and then create a new set of options, beyond what the present day "conservative experts" can imagine... Imagine that... Weird, for a conservative, eh? I mean, not to be able to understand that we are creative, that we can learn and change, even for the better... And especially when it comes to science (there's no stopping us there!) and technology (becoming ever more capable in ever smaller, more efficient machines etc.)... Heh... JFK, you really do not know what projecting is, I believe you... Hence, you really are the one to be the recipient of one's pity... Condolences on seeing all your "considered objections and opinions" blown right out of the water FACTUALLY and yet - you are still clinging to your "serious objecting".... ahem... for no serious reason that you can verifiably put together... Like an autistic child... Trying desperately to rationalise one's prejudices... Sad, really sad...
You couldn't even work out the math for the required amp/hours just to move that coal truck. I guess that must be part of your "science", or is that a part of your unique "logic" ?
Shoot, Einstein has nothing on you - EV trucks are REALITY and you are doing what exactly here? Telling us they are not real?!? How about the rest of your "genius" so called "predictions"?!? What a bozo...
So tell me BOZO, what have I outlined in red on YOUR EV truck ? What purpose do they serve in an EV vehicle ? What is the primary purpose for a truck of this configuration ?
There are big electric driven trucks,,,,, BUT..... they are powered by diesel engines. http://www.mining.com/belaz-hoping-make-inroads-north-american-mining-truck-market/ Electric drive system One of BELAZ's key value propositions is its electric drive system, installed in its 90-tonne models and higher. The BELAZ-7571 for example uses four electric motors to move the truck, has no hydro-mechanical transmission and uses minimum quantity of oil. The truck still relies on diesel to produce the electricity but the all-wheel- drive system is powered by two alternators, each driven by a 16-cylinder diesel engine. According to BELAZ the electric drive system reduces the cost per ton to transport materials, by operating 25% more efficiently. These trucks are not built with climate change in mind.
Here, Great Big Bunny NANABOZO, EAT YOUR HEART OUT: https://electrek.co/2017/12/07/tesla-semi-deliver-beer-budweiser-orders-40-electric-trucks/ You will drown in its load... "The list of companies placing orders for Tesla Semi electric trucks keeps growing weeks after the unveiling event last month. Now Anheuser-Busch, the brewer behind Budweiser, announced that it ordered 40 Tesla Semi trucks. The brewer says that it will include the electric trucks in its distribution network as part of its commitment to reduce its operational carbon footprint by 30 percent by 2025. Considering the size of their distribution network, they say that it would be the equivalent of removing nearly 500,000 cars from the road globally each year." https://electriccarsreport.com/2017...ble-uk/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter "The new Nissan LEAF’s revolutionary e-Pedal technology transforms the way people drive by letting them start, accelerate, decelerate and stop – simply by increasing or decreasing the pressure applied to the accelerator. When the accelerator is fully released, the regenerative and friction braking systems are deployed automatically, bringing the car to a complete stop and harnessing energy to recharge the battery. The car holds its position, even on steep up and downhill slopes, until the accelerator is pressed again, taking the stress out of driving like never before. The 2.ZERO special version is priced at £26,490 including Government Grant. Cars will be delivered from the beginning of 2018." Go buy one: https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-mar...3f5dc3e8d5e96&uid=917878446&nid=244 276893704