What do you think about Electric Cars?

Discussion in 'Serious Discussion' started by Katzenfreund, Aug 24, 2017.

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Will your next car be electric?

  1. My next car will be electric

  2. I’ll wait several years for prices to drop

  3. I’m not convinced by them, I’ll buy conventional

  4. I am undecided, far more info is required

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  1. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Stuck. My severe condolences.
     
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  2. JFKI

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    Don't bother, your credibility with me is gone.
     
  3. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Hahahahahaaaaaaa!!!!!!! :D :D :D
     
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  4. JFKI

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    :laie::laie: @ gorski's coal mining electric vehicle. :laie::laie:

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    Complete with Radiator, Air cleaners, and exhaust.

    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
     
  5. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Yeah, why don't we forget about this:



    As opposed to this little gem:

    Now, I bet any money I will never have that even the huge ones will eventually be EVs!

    Why? Well, this is a real novelty for JFK - because science and technology can not be stopped, since they are an expression of Human ingenuity, creativity, imagination...

    But JFK is a conservative, so he dislikes "change". "No change, please, we are conservatives"...

    Suit yourselves...
     
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  6. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    #446 gorski, Dec 13, 2017
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    OK, here are relevant FACTS:





     
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  7. gorski

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    Here, JFK, even Rosie understands it, so maybe even you can :D :p :D

     
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  8. JFKI

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    And I stand by that. In the world of trucking 300-500 miles is nothing. Did I ever tell you about the independent trucker (owner/operator) who brought his truck in to have it serviced ands he wanted to physically see the clutch disks ? His truck just rolled 1 million miles. Those discs still had the paper tags on them. He drove cross country and only used the clutch to get the rig rolling, and speed shifted from there. 1 million miles on a 2 year old truck. In fact had you carefully read that Pepsico article for instance you would realize that Pepsico bought those trucks for local delivery because even they are unsure that those trucks could cut the mustard as far as cross country runs go.

    But noooo, you never read the entire article, do you ?

    Yeah. That is why I am in the process of building my own personal E/V.

    Keep on lying gorski, eventually someone will believe you.
     
  9. JFKI

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    I saw exactly zero pickup trucks with plows in your videos.
    Around here unless the path is plowed you are going nowhere, getting stuck, and risking your own life. THAT is the ultimate fact bozo.
     
  10. JFKI

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    Likewise there is no plow on that car either bozo.
     
  11. Joe C

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    #451 Joe C, Dec 13, 2017
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    Does an EV even need a generator to run a winch for a plow?
    (up/down/left/right... hydrolic or not)
    I would think that the bed of a P.U. would give lots of space for a battery, although the bed might not be as deep as a standard P.U.
    The issue I see is how EMS would need to react to a massive ion battery leak in case of a major accident and EPA standards for chemical leaks from batteries involved with collisions
    (if people have cars... they will crash them)
     
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  12. gorski

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    Thankfully, JFK, you are not running Pepsico and whomever does understands these issues a wee bit better than a bozo like you... :rolleyes:

    Let me get this straight: everybody's EV is rubbish but there is one that will be phenomenal. So, no sign of trumponesque BS there! :D

    Even if a battery on a plough-EV lasts only 100km, I presume this is enough for most places, especially if they are cheaper to run!

    And I bet they will last longer when some truly clever men put their minds to it (not you, JFK, not you, FFS... :D :D :D )...
     
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  13. JFKI

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    Yes Joe, an E/V plow truck would need a hydraulic pump. The added weight in the bed from that battery would also be a help traction wise.

    As far as EMS goes, I have no idea at this point. In my mind a lithium Polymer battery would have no liquid electrolyte, but as I said I really don't know at this point.
    Polymer in my mind refers to a plastic like substance. Of course lithium itself is toxic in that quantity.
    The E/V I am currently building has a 48 volt 1000 watt battery composed of a series (I don't know how many) of smaller 16850? cells. Perhaps I will buy a single cell and dissect it. I think all the electric/electronic parts for it will be in this week, so I will be soldering and heat shrinking a lot this weekend.

    But yes, you do bring up a good point as far as EMS goes. In the video of that crash and burn, I did not see any liquid spilling, but I do wonder about the lithium.

    Edit to add,FYI the plow pump when in use normally steals about 3/4 of 1 hp off a conventional set up.
     
  14. JFKI

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    You are babbling again. :thinking: Or is it still ? :dunno:
     
  15. gorski

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    You mean, you have no "clever return"... :D No, there is none. You are a great big bunny NanaBozo! :D

    Night... :D
     
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  16. JFKI

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    Perhaps for a small storm, Unless you begin thinking bigger (gorski thinking ? let alone bigger ? :laie: :laie: )

    For example Interstate 90 is 3,020 miles or 4,861 Km in length. Plowing something like that ends up looking something like :

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  18. JFKI

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    :laie: gorski, please look up the definition of "bigger". :laie:
     
  19. gorski

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    Yeah, I know, if it's smaller than YOUR imagined "standard" it does not exist. Typical, for Amuuricans, Russians and so on... Bleurgh! :D
     
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  20. JFKI

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    So Pinky, does your girlfriend burst out laughing when you get naked ?