What do you think about Electric Cars?

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Will your next car be electric?

  1. My next car will be electric

  2. I’ll wait several years for prices to drop

  3. I’m not convinced by them, I’ll buy conventional

  4. I am undecided, far more info is required

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  1. JFKI

    JFKI MDL Expert

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    You may want to read that again Joe....
    https://www.caranddriver.com/news/2010-pontiac-g8-st-pickup-killed-car-news
     
  2. Joe C

    Joe C MDL Guru

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    No sh*t sherlock
    The last Pontiac built was in Jan. 2010
     
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  3. JFKI

    JFKI MDL Expert

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    Sorry, I don't follow pontiac's at all. :dunno:
     
  4. gorski

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    gorski MDL Guru

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    gorski MDL Guru

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    gorski MDL Guru

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  8. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    https://jalopnik.com/the-niro-ev-concept-is-a-238-mile-range-electric-crosso-1821892713

    Surprise! The Kia Niro EV Concept Is A 238-Mile Range Electric... Crossover

    Kia showed up to CES with the Niro electric crossover concept, which previews a production model that will go on sale later this year. According to the presentation, the Niro has a 238-mile range and charge up to 115 miles worth of juice in just 30 minutes.

    https://insideevs.com/number-of-cha...6b0f5133e470c&uid=917878446&nid=244 289476616

    Number of Charging Stations In U.S. Increased To 48,000 (15,000 in California)

    https://electriccarsreport.com/2018...s-2018/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    EVBox unveils new EV charging solution during CES 2018
     
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  9. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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  10. Joe C

    Joe C MDL Guru

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    Electric BMW....Great ride!
    (if you like pink)
     
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  11. Michaela Joy

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    I like pink. :D
     
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    Michaela Joy MDL Crazy Lady

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  13. Katzenfreund

    Katzenfreund MDL Expert

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    Here's a good pink car I like (no allusion to anyone, only my liking of cats)

    [​IMG]
     
  14. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    A move in the right direction: https://news.ontario.ca/mto/en/2018...b72d22cccba9c&uid=917878446&nid=244 293670920

    • The Workplace Electric Vehicle Charging Incentive Program will provide 80 per cent of the capital costs to install level 2 chargers, up to $7,500 per charging space.
    • Applications will open on Jan. 16, 2018, and reviewed and processed in the order they are received, until the program funding is exhausted.
    • Level 2 charging stations use a 240 volt system (similar to a clothes dryer plug) and can fully charge a vehicle from a zero per cent charge in about four to eight hours.
    • It is estimated there are over 1,300 public chargers available in Ontario, including chargers not funded under the Electric Vehicle Chargers Ontario program.
    • Ontario’s Electric Vehicle Charging Incentive program has provided incentives worth approximately $2.2 million for the installation of almost 2,600 home charging stations since January 2013.
    • Ontario’s five-year Climate Change Action Plan aims to reduce greenhouse gas emissions to 15 per cent below 1990 levels by 2020, 37 per cent by 2030 and 80 per cent by 2050.
    • Greenhouse gases from cars account for more emissions than those from iron, steel, cement, and chemical industries combined.
    • There are more than 16,000 electric vehicles currently on the road in Ontario.
     
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  16. Katzenfreund

    Katzenfreund MDL Expert

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  17. nodnar

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    :g: batteries will be impossibly heavy, i would be afraid to board such a plane,they will fall out of the sky in droves.

    EDIT; or perhaps not. by that time i will be 91..;)
     
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  18. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Thinsg are most deffo turning for the best in all this, much to dismay of the "doubters", no doubt...

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01...-vehicle-charging-network-with-7500-stations/

    Image from a web page with information about PG&E’s electric vehicle charging station network. PG&E on Wednesday launched a new network for charging electric vehicles, a web of green energy that will eventually include 7,500 charging station in an array of locations. Condominiums, apartment buildings and workplaces throughout PG&E’s service territory in northern and central California are among the types of locations planned for the EV charging stations.

    https://chargedevs.com/newswire/vw-...tions-at-workplaces-and-multi-unit-dwellings/

    VW subsidiary Electrify America to install 2,800 charging stations at workplaces and multi-unit dwellings

    Moreover: https://electriccarsreport.com/2018...-japan/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    Nissan LEAF technology to be used in electric bus test in Japan

    ROCK'N'ROLL!!!! :)
     
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  19. gorski

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    https://electriccarsreport.com/2018...awards/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    https://www.greencarreports.com/new...5-electric-cars-plug-in-hybrid-models-by-2025

    https://cleantechnica.com/2018/01/2...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

    Electrify America Chooses Greenlots To Charge EVs Every 70 Miles On Highways Across USA

    Decidedly, we can’t get enough good news from Greenlots, as now Electrify America has revealed that it has selected the company to deploy its “Fueling Stations of the Future” platform for electric vehicles (EV) nationwide.

    :)
     
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  20. gorski

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    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmc...less-than-half-as-much-to-drive/#1456d7d43f97

    Electric vehicles cost less than half as much to operate as their gasoline-powered counterparts, according to a study of fuel costs released Thursday by the University of Michigan.

    The average cost to operate an EV in the United States is $485 per year, while the average for a gasoline-powered vehicle is $1,117, according to the study by Michael Sivak and Brandon Schoettle of Michigan's Transportation Research Institute.

    This study only examined fuel costs, but the maintenance cost for electric vehicles has also been found to be lower because they have fewer moving parts, no exhaust system, less need for cooling, less abrasive braking options, and no need to change "oil, fan belts, air filters, timing belts, head gaskets, cylinder heads and spark plugs."

    In the new Michigan study, Sivak and Schoettle found that fuel costs for both type of cars vary dramatically from state to state.

    In Hawaii, it costs $1,509 to fuel "a typical new gasoline vehicle" each year, and $1,106 to charge an EV.

    Gasoline is cheapest in Alabama at $993 a year, but electricity is still much cheaper at $481.

    The difference is greatest in Washington state, where gasoline will cost that average motorist $1,338, compared to $372 to charge up.

    In no state is it cheaper to fuel up on gasoline—Hawaii comes closest to parity.

    For gasoline cars to catch up to EVs, they would have to improve their fuel economy to 90 miles per gallon in Washington, to 57.6 mpg on average across the states.

    President Obama had approached that number with a fuel economy standard of 54.5 mpg he proposed in 2012, a measure that it now appears might help gasoline cars survive in competition with rapidly evolving EVs. But last year President Trump began an effort to roll back that standard in order to make Detroit "the car capital of the world again."

    Inefficient gasoline cars may not be the best platform for Detroit to reach that goal. Electric Vehicles still make up just over 1 percent of cars sold in the U.S. (5 percent in California), but their growth has been accelerating, and most of the historical reservations about electric cars—range, power, charger access—have been overcome.

    Add to that the mounting evidence that they're also cheaper to drive.

    "Electric cars are vastly better than internal combustion devices," said James Anderson, a Harvard scientist who spoke in Chicago Thursday. He was not referring to the Michigan study, but made his own comparison. "I mean they are incredibly fun to drive, they’re quick, fast, quiet. They don’t have carbon dioxide spewing out of the back.”

    A noted atmospheric chemist, Anderson offers about 150 undergraduates in his Physical Sciences 11 course a chance to get behind the wheel of his red Chevy Bolt. It helps them visualize a cleaner future, he said.

    “When they combine this revelation with what they learn in thermodynamics, and they realize that the entire system can be electrified—except for fuel for aircraft, which can be biofuels—it really opens their eyes in a fundamental way.”
     
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