What do you think about Electric Cars?

Discussion in 'Serious Discussion' started by Katzenfreund, Aug 24, 2017.

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Will your next car be electric?

  1. My next car will be electric

  2. I’ll wait several years for prices to drop

  3. I’m not convinced by them, I’ll buy conventional

  4. I am undecided, far more info is required

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  1. MS_User

    MS_User MDL Guru

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    and not just that...once u run out of warranty u best have a lot of cash to buy a extended warranty...because only the techs in tesla know how to work on them...u cant take it to the guy in the corner he doesnt understand does cars.
     
  2. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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  3. JFKI

    JFKI MDL Expert

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    :) Amazing how people think that electric is just soooo clean. Unless that electricity used for charging those batteries is generated by water, wind, or solar there is a waste product, be it spent nuclear or fossil fuels. And yes, the spent batteries will be a problem.
     
  4. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Heh, yes we know that a lot of electricity in the USofA is from coal etc. But the world is not the USofA, m8. Wake up!

    And nobody said they are going away tomorrow... Much as many of us would wish so...
     
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  5. Joe C

    Joe C MDL Guru

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    These cars will work for the city commute, but any American thinking about using an electric car for a vacation, that is out of the question.

    Drive across the country out west or the coast and you'll be walking down the road with an empty battery can:D
     
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  6. MS_User

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    I agree unless they make charging hubs all over US....i dont see a cross country vacation in the picture ..... i tell u guys something and it mite sound crazy....they can make a electric car with a small nuclear battery that could run for 20 years with out replacing it or need of charge.. but thats not a money maker....battery manufactures have to make money...thats how our economy works...think about it less batterys which are very difficult to recycle and destroy our ecosystem when people just dump them all over the place.. u make less of a poisons toxic product.
     
  7. Katzenfreund

    Katzenfreund MDL Expert

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    Off Topic while On Topic.

    Guys, please don’t just post links alone. It’s time-consuming and off-putting for us to keep going off site to read long articles. And many of us don’t bother.

    It’s much more effective, also for your arguments, to give a short statement of the gist in your post, and then by all means also provide the link for those interested to follow it further.
     
  8. Tiger-1

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    yay Sir :good3:
     
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  9. Michaela Joy

    Michaela Joy MDL Crazy Lady

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    @JFKI: I don't know why you keep comparing the US economy with Europe. They're different than us.

    I've heard stories of how a diesel engine was designed that gets 80 mpg. It's built here, but you can't buy it in America.

    Only in Europe. :dunno:

    One of many sources:
    http://dougdemuro.kinja.com/here-s-why-we-can-t-buy-that-80-mpg-diesel-we-rented-in-1325972764

    Oh, and the video is unavailable (no surprise there)

    Here's one that's interesting:
    http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a769/3374271/

    Oh, here's another one.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-european-diesel-cars/

    Of all the links you managed to find, you found the only link that talks about this from a US economic standpoint.

    We don't have 80 mpg diesels here because it's not good for the economy.

    Period.
     
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  10. gorski

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    #111 gorski, Sep 13, 2017
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    I disagree completely: http://www.teslarati.com/map/?place=USA - zoom out to see the superchargers network in USofA

    Try going from NY > anywhere major in US...

    http://www.teslarati.com/map/?place=Europe

    See me potentially (if/when I buy a Tesla :D ) going from London, UK > Split, Croatia: https://www.evtripplanner.com/planner/2-8/?id=5kql2rpi

    Anyone can find this easily. C'mon, guys, get your thinking hats on...

    US and EU are dotted with those SC points: https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/supercharger?redirect=no

    EDIT

    This is the distance on my route from London to Split: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/L...ff631b49f98!2m2!1d16.4401935!2d43.5081323!3e0

    We are talking about 2000km, ergo
    1) charge at home and start, get one more charge during lunch time and then over night;
    2) tomorrow you charge one more time mid way and you are there.

    And this is what I just did, in a petrol car. Nothing difficult to understand...
     
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  11. JFKI

    JFKI MDL Expert

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    I guess you didn't read Gorski's link.
    It was the first link within that article.

    [shakes head and leaves thread and deletes all the calculations demonstrating how unfeasible it actually is to go "all electric" with NYC cabs.]

    :bye1:
     
  12. Michaela Joy

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  13. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Indeed, he is full of "it" and himself, for no good reason whatsoever...
     
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  14. Joe C

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    #115 Joe C, Sep 13, 2017
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    your links are useless, they show nothing.
    The Tesla X gets less than 300 miles per charge. Who wants to sit someplace (if you can find a charge station out in BFE) for a half hour to an hour waiting to drive? Plus pay an extra super charge fee. I can drive straight through to Kansas City from Mich with one stop for a re-fill in Hannibal, Mo. I do not think the majority of Americans are going to settle to wait for a re-charge every couple of hundred miles (Your Model 3 gets 220 miles) It would be too time consuming to vacation because people are not going to wait someplace to recharge, they want to move and they want to move when and where they want to now. I'm not going to spend $35K on a car just to get around and through town. We do like to travel

    ( My mom lives in Kansas City)
     
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  15. gorski

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/07/new-york-to-miami-tesla-_n_5282846.html

    Man Drives Tesla From NY To Miami Without Spending A Cent

    https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forums/new-york-miami-supercharger

    http://insideevs.com/tesla-model-s-100d-gets-epa-rating-335-miles/

    Breaking: Tesla Model S 100D Gets Record-Shattering EPA Range Of 335 Miles

    http://mashable.com/2017/06/21/tesla-model-s-560-miles/#9f56ZueRBSqf

    Tesla Model S goes a record 560 miles on a single charge, Elon Musk is not impressed
     
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  16. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    My, my... It's getting there, ever faster...

    https://electrek.co/2017/09/13/ev-s...cae9589110b5e&uid=917878446&nid=244 276893704

    EV startup launches new electric SUV with massive battery pack for ‘400 miles of range’

    Two years ago, Thunder Power unveiled its first car at the Frankfurt Motor Show and this year, the Taiwan-based power-tool maker turned electric vehicle maker, unveiled its second vehicle on the same platform.

    Thunder Power had some relative success as an electric power tool-maker, but now they have the ambition of using their experience building battery packs for tools to make electric vehicles.

    They have a similar approach as Tesla’s – meaning that they aim to start with the higher-end of the market with more expensive luxury vehicles and build a premium sedan and a premium SUV on the same platform with the same powertrain, like Tesla’s Model S and Model X.

    After unveiling the Thunder Power Sedan two years ago, they now unveiled the SUV in Frankfurt
     
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  17. Joe C

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    #118 Joe C, Sep 13, 2017
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    Huffington post is total B.S. It is known as a B.S. web site, please do not use links to that garbage.
    The Tesla web site is where I got my info, Please use the Manufacture's data to make your point. Anything else is not reliable and can be construed as FUD
    A Thunder Sedan at $73,000 dollars...are you serious???
    I can't justify spending $35K on a car.... and you posting cars twice that amount???
    Give it up gorski, the world is not yet ready for half baked autos that run solely on electric. If your argument was for hybrids then you might stand a chance of making a valid point
     
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  18. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    The world is making a valid point, not me.

    You are hiding...
     
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  19. Joe C

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    #120 Joe C, Sep 13, 2017
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    Drive at 24.8 mph to get 560 miles?
    That is not realistic on a normal roadway

    The things your using to support your all electric ideas are not realistic, just hype to get peeps onto electric cars. After that you'll be paying out of your arse big time to get "plugged in" Re-charging is free or very cheap today, it won't be once every body starts depending on it
    7 yrs car payments for an 8 year battery (warranty) on the Tesla
     
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