What do you think about Electric Cars?

Discussion in 'Serious Discussion' started by Katzenfreund, Aug 24, 2017.

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Will your next car be electric?

  1. My next car will be electric

  2. I’ll wait several years for prices to drop

  3. I’m not convinced by them, I’ll buy conventional

  4. I am undecided, far more info is required

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  1. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    I think that electric cars are going to need to provide a better value and compete with the existing combustion vehicles because money is the only thing that people truly value.
    Being able to drive 100 miles is not good enough when your average car can drive 300+. The ability to store the electricity needs to improve. The infrastructure of charging stations need to improve.
    There's a reason why most people aren't using them, even if it's a popular idea. To me, the hybrids make more sense right now as they can improve mileage without most of the downside.
     
  2. gorski

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    Yes, except that most rides are much shorter than even 100 miles and most EVs can do more than twice that, the best around 300+.

    Infrastructure is improving all the time in the whole of "West" and wider, so...

    Money is the factor of course but the prices are going down!

    And running costs of EVs are significantly lower than ICE!

    Batteries are getting better and better and cheaper!

    So, factually... ahem...
     
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  3. Joe C

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    Factually... they are not quite ready for prime time, but you can be one of those "first adopters" if you want to
     
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    @EVNewsDaily
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    "Consumers underestimate the total cost of vehicle ownership by €221 (US$240) per month on average. The misjudgement amounts to 52% of the actual costs, so the total cost is nearly twice what people think." Time to drive electric? It's a lot chearper.

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    Running a car costs much more than people think — stalling the uptake of green travel
    Car owners underestimate total vehicle costs. Giving consumers this information could encourage the switch to cleaner transport and reduce emissions.
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    2000 km on a Single Charge: Brighsun’s Li-S Batteries to Enter Industrial Trials

    Lithium batteries will soon power electric vehicles traveling 2,000 km (1,242 miles) on a single charge, say the team at Brighsun New Energy. The company is preparing for industrial trials later in the year for a range of lithium-sulfur (Li-S) batteries that can power a cell phone for over a week and can theoretically travel close to 2,000 km on a single charge.

    Through nearly 8 years of research, the Brighsun team developed lithium-sulfur (Li-S) batteries with an energy density 5-8 times higher than conventional secondary batteries. According to results from an internationally accredited testing agency (SGS), Brighsun’s new technology allows an Li-S battery to keep 91% of its initial capacity after 1,700 cycles at a rate of 2C (being fully charged/discharged in 30 mins). That means the capacity decay per cycle is as low as 0.01%.

    Even at a more aggressive rate of 5C (being fully charged/discharged in 12.5 mins), Brighsun’s Li-S battery retains 74% of its initial capacity after 1,000 cycles (capacity decay per cycle of 0.026%). The cathode energy density for the 1th cycle after activation at charge rate of 1C is 2103.8Wh/kg.

    Driven by the growing markets world-wide for EVs, the battery industry has explored a range of chemical combinations: lithium iron phosphate, lithium cobalt oxide and, currently, nickel manganese cobalt. However, current battery systems still suffer from the major disadvantages of relatively low energy density, high raw material costs and secondary pollution during recycling.

    Brighsun’s advanced Li-S chemistry, offering high energy density and resultant low raw material costs, will be a game changer in the EV industry. Li-S batteries also have the potential to become the most promising energy storage systems for future railways, ships and airlines. Industries such as electric supply grid storage, mobile phones, drones and AI will also benefit from dramatically higher energy density storage provided by Brighsun’s new battery system.

    Companies in the US, Germany, Korea and China have been developing Li-S batteries and have achieved promising breakthroughs. However, these systems still face a number of challenges, including volume expansion of cathode materials during cycling, the shuttling effect of polysulfides, and the dendritic growth of lithium on the anode. This results in shorter cycling life and poor fast-charging capability, both major obstacles to their application in the world automotive industry.

    Brighsun’s Revolutionary Approach

    Brighsun has patented Li-S battery technology that prevents the generation of polysulfide on the sulfur cathode and effectively suppresses dendritic growth of Li on the anode Li-S, paving the way for Li-S battery use in EVs.

    The company has already developed processes for the production of cathode materials (electrolytes, separators and lithium sheet anodes), of which the core materials (anodes, electrolytes, and separators) can be produced in batches. Trial production of high-power cells with an expected energy density in excess of 1,000 Wh/kg is about to begin. Brighsun is also developing a solid-state electrolyte compatible with its Li-S system, aiming at further improvements in the cycling life, energy density and safety of its Li-S batteries.

    Plentiful and Low Cost Battery Materials

    The main raw materials for Brighsun’s Li-S batteries are widely available in Australia, with a supply sufficient for hundreds of years. Indeed, at under AUD100 for 1kWh, the expected production cost of Brighsun-branded 2U Li-S batteries is lower than conventional lithium ion batteries – providing a major boost to the development of electric vehicle and related industries in Australia and around the world.

    Going Forward

    Brighsun is currently in discussion with potential investors in the large-scale trial production of Li-S batteries. The development process for large-scale production is expected to be finished by end-2020, followed by the mass production of Li-S batteries.

    Brighsun’s new energy-dense Li-S battery is expected to accelerate EV take-up around the world, spurred by dramatically improved single-charge travel performance, low cost and long life. Combined with the relative simplicity of EV design compared to internal combustion engine/hybrid vehicles, consumers and the industry alike are set to benefit from lower cost, emission-free transport. At the same time, Brighsun’s 2U Li-S batteries offer huge benefits to the mobile phone and solar-electric storage industries, generating dramatic performance improvements in both.

    https://electriccarsreport.com/2020...ns-li-s-batteries-to-enter-industrial-trials/
     
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  8. john23

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    #1188 john23, Apr 30, 2020
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    Electric cars were invented in the 1890's right after the invention of AC Induction motor. In today also there was not much improvement over the old Induction motor technology. This electric motor was always efficient, reliable, and was widely adopted worldwide. From heavy machinery used in industries to household items like ceiling fan. An electric motor can outrun a combustion engine in every field, if built with quality materials. Remember there was not even 5% of research and development conducted on an induction motor compared to an ICE. These things are virtually maintenance-free. There is a huge difference in energy loss for an ICE engine and an electric motor.

    Then what was the reason behind this huge development for the petroleum industry? Because the battery technology was always a headache for an automobile. Comparing to the energy density of petroleum, Batteries were nowhere near to it. Almost a decade back Tesla revolutionized the Auto industry with their electric cars and everyone began to recognize the real potential of it. Tesla is not an Automobile manufacturer but a Battery manufacturer. That is the area where they outperform every other competitor. So if anybody is doubtful over the performance of an electric car then, please watch the performance video clips of a Rimac C-2 electric car and see how a passionate youngster has shook the world with his invention. He virtually beat every legacy manufacturers like Ferrari, Porche, Lamborghini, McLaren in the drag races.

    Anyhow battery technology still requires improvement to completely eradicate the petroleum tech. But without a doubt, electric cars are the future. Petroleum cars have passed its prime and the time is approaching to bid a goodbye to those technologies and it will not take more than a decade to make it happen. No matter how hard petroleum corporate lobbies try to stop it or delay it, it is still inevitable.
     
  9. gorski

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    All that I have written about in this thread alone and amply so, of course...

    A couple of things: Tesla is a car manufacturer as well. Integrated car manufacturer - one of the very few in the world... Winners of many awards, including traffic safety awards of all sorts...

    They are now working with Panasonic, as the best Lithium battery manufacturer in the world but... That is not a good tech we wanna continue with, for many reasons. I posted new research done in the area, as well...

    The real issues would be sources of power, as recently warned by M. Moore, in his new film, where he questions these issues seriously - we need a really, truly "clean", new tech, really differently based, away from fossil fuel, oil, gas, coal or nuclear, even "biomass", destroying our primeval forests, so without pollution and CO2 and other, many harmful emissions but...
     
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    https://cleantechnica.com/2020/04/3...as-europe-reaches-10-market-share-march-2020/

    Tesla Model 3 Reaches #1 In Europe As Europe Reaches 10% EV Market Share — March 2020

    April 30th, 2020 by Jose Pontes
    The European passenger plug-in vehicle market had 84,000 registrations in March (+41% year over year/YoY), a great performance considering the effect that several lockdowns across the continent have had. Furthermore, this is while the overall auto market was crashing (-52% YoY), inflating last month’s plug-in vehicle share to an amazing 9.9% (6% fully electric vehicles/BEVs). That pulls the 2020 plug-in vehicle (PEV) share to 7.5% (4.3% for BEVs alone), well above the 3.6% result of 2019.

    Will we see Europe’s plug-in auto market hit a two-digit share this year?

    The big news in March is it was a peak month for the Tesla Model 3, which had 16,121 registrations. The Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV also had a good month, returning to the podium, thanks to 3,551 units registered, while below it we have two Volkswagen Group models, with the VW e-Golf in #4 and the Audi e-tron in #5.

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    #1 Tesla Model 3 — The usual end-of-quarter flood came for the world’s electromobility poster child, with 16,121 deliveries, giving the sports sedan its first European Best Seller title in 2020. The rabbit out of Tesla’s hat last month was the UK, with the Californian registering a record 4,718 units there, but that wasn’t the only 4-digit performance, as 2,034 deliveries were recorded in Germany, 1,385 units in France (a new record), 1,339 in the Netherlands, and a best ever 1,084 units in Sweden.

    https://cleantechnica.com/2020/04/28/the-5-stages-of-ev-denial-why-tesla-stays-ahead/

    The 5 Stages Of EV Denial & Why Tesla Stays Ahead

    April 28th, 2020 by Carolyn Fortuna

    It’s been nearly a century since any automaker was in a more enviable position than Tesla. Technology and design of zero-emission vehicles has improved dramatically in recent years. Yet, to catch up with Tesla innovation and marketability and be competitive in the fast-moving EV segment, legacy automakers need to switch to forward thinking, major investments, and extreme dedication. It’s just not happening. They aren’t true competitors to Tesla. Instead, legacy automakers continue to do the bare minimum to promote EVs at a time when it’s crucial to move to a transportation framework of the future that mitigates carbon emissions. The auto industry is in a stagnant state of EV denial.

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    For legacy automakers, the EV denial process began decades ago. Not an invention of the contemporary era, the electric car has a long and storied history. Indeed, by the turn of the 20th century, EVs were are all the rage in the US, accounting for around 1/3 of all vehicles on the road.

    All you have to do is visit the Elliott Museum in Stuart, Florida, and you’ll see an exhibit of the earliest autos to hit the roads. Alongside the 1903 Stanley Steamer Runabout, the 1903 Cadillac Model A Runabout, and the 1912 Ford Model T Speedster is a 1914 Detroit Electric. At that point, neither internal combustion engine (ICE) or electric was seen as across-the-board preferable to the other, and, in fact, the cleanliness and ease of use of electric cars made it seem to many as if electric would surpass other transportation technologies. Famously, Henry Ford’s wife drove an electric car.

    All too soon, though, mass automobile production, better roads, and the discovery of cheap Texas crude oil helped to contribute to the decline in EVs. And, ironically, the electric starter for gasoline-powered vehicles.

    Fast forward to 2020 and the palpable tension between electrons and petroleum for transportation has been turned upside down, with a crash in oil prices in April. Fuel pump prices plunged to 20-year lows with no signs of rising, making the cost of ICE vehicles even more attractive to buyers — and automakers.

    The 5 Stages of EV Denial

    The legacy auto industry practices double-speak that suggests it desperately wants to innovate but is still doing the things it does best, argues David Reichmuth, a senior engineer in the Clean Vehicles program with the Union of Concerned Scientists. That means not innovating quickly and jumping into the electric future with full effort and passion. When we take a step back and scrutinize closely, we can see that most fossil-based automakers engage in the 5 stages of EV denial.

    Stage 1: Deny the problem exists. The first modern plug-based vehicles came to market only in the early 2010s, when, most notably, Tesla’s Model S made driving an electric car cool and trendy. General Motors and Ford, which are the two biggest US automakers at the moment, expect to produce more than 5 million SUVs and pickup trucks in 2026, but only about 320,000 of them are intended to be EVs, according to information provided by Reuters. Automakers blame the consumer, whom they say isn’t ready to drive an EV and prefers SUVs. Many media channels provide messaging that affirms legacy automakers’ entrenched point of view that gasoline cars are still “state of the art” and that “an EV future is decades away.”

    Stage 2: Deny responsibility. The launch of the original Tesla Model S shifted the EV conversation, as the sedan pushed above 200 miles per charge and then leapt to more than 300 miles per charge with an optional, long-range battery pack. Automakers drool when they see Tesla’s capacity for range and power but don’t act — they only preen with public commitment to EVs. For example, General Motors and Ford Motor Company claim to be invested in an electric future but are leaving it to dealers to pay for upgrades that can amount to tens of thousands of dollars. Charging stations, specialized tools and training for repair people, and empowerment strategies for an EV sales force are necessary. According to the responses to a 2019 survey, dealerships have to take on a lot of responsibility to sell and service a vehicle whose battery and design are entirely distinct from the gas/diesel vehicles they’ve known for a century, and automakers are not shouldering enough of that responsibility.

    Stage 3: Downplay the threat. While sales of battery-based vehicles are on the rise, they still constitute a minuscule fraction of the US, European, and Asian markets. (Though, that has been changing quickly in Europe this year and China had a strong trend toward EVs before the coronavirus pandemic hit.) Automakers are not looking to depart from their winning profitability formula, a formula which is definitely not good for the environment. Trump’s White House has followed through on its plan to roll back Obama-era fuel efficiency standards. The Obama administration had predicted that doubling average car and truck fuel efficiency from 2011 to 2025 would cut greenhouse gas emissions by 6 billion tons. The Trump fuel efficiency reversal is part of a pattern of environmental deregulation that shatters important climate and consumer protections that would make cars more fuel efficient, less polluting, and cheaper to drive. Gasoline/diesel auto manufacturers are smiling at recent US executive office and oil events while transportation emissions comprise 29% of US emissions by sector.

    Stage 4: Attack the solutions as too costly. In 2017, Daimler warned that electric Mercedes models would initially be just half as profitable as conventional alternatives. That meant that Daimler would have to reduce costs by outsourcing more component manufacturing — threatening German jobs. Yet the US Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy says that plug-in EVs can save consumers money, with much lower fuel costs on average than conventional gasoline vehicles. As CleanTechnica has shown many times, there are countless scenarios in which total cost of ownership of an electric vehicle is considerably better than that of a competing gasoline-powered vehicle. Nonetheless, a constant refrain from the auto industry is that the difference in purchase price between a gasoline and electric vehicle is too much for the average consumer.

    Stage 5: It’s too late. Even though the unveiling last fall of Ford’s Mustang-inspired and Mustang-branded Mach-E electric crossover was a big hit, the coronavirus pandemic is likely to cause carmakers to revisit their manufacturing strategies as consumers eat up savings and probably shift near-term automotive spending to used cars. A corporate slow-walk to EVs is compounded by generally weak federal and state EV tax credits. Meanwhile, there’s also a sprint to develop self-driving vehicles, which would be much more helpful for deliveries in a pandemic, and legacy automakers seem to be behind the curve on that as well, especially if you consider that a high-efficiency, long-range electric powertrain is fundamentally much better equipped for high-mileage autonomous vehicles.

    Final Thoughts

    Tesla has been able to zoom ahead of fossil-fueled automakers due to its dedication to creating a sustainable transportation network. With the backdrop of COVID-19 alongside the climate crisis, a new melange of courage, caution, and chance is warranted, and Tesla is seeing renewed confidence from investors. It’s time for legacy automakers to step back from EV denial.

    Let’s send a shout-out to Yale Climate Connections, which published “Coronavirus doubters follow climate denial playbook” — the inspiration for this article.
     
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    For cities I can see electric vehicles being a thing, rural America not so much...
     
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    I'd say you're not informed... well, so much...
     
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    https://twitter.com/electriccarsite/status/1261442741197815808?cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw==&refsrc=email

    Tesla’s Million Mile Battery Could Make EVs Cost-Competitive With ICE Vehicles
    BY MICHAEL GAUTHIER

    Tesla has transformed how people think about electric vehicles, and they could soon introduce a new battery that makes EVs cost-competitive with models powered by an internal combustion engine.

    According to Reuters, the new “low-cost, long-life” battery will be installed in Model 3s built in China later this year or early next year. The battery was reportedly developed with China’s CATL and will be able to last for one million miles (1,609,344 km).

    While the battery will be launched in China, the report says we can expect improved versions with higher energy densities, greater storage capacities and lower costs. These batteries will reportedly be installed in an assortment of Tesla vehicles and be offered in a variety of markets including North America.
     
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    https://trak.in/tags/business/2020/...ss-than-20-minutes-800v-battery-will-be-used/

    Kia’s Next Electric Car Will Charge In Less Than 20 Minutes! 800V Battery Will Be Used

    Porsche Taycan And GMC Hummer EV Use Similar Platforms

    The Kia CV will be the flagship model of Kia Motors and it will be employing Hyundai’s new Electric-Global Modular Platform (E-GMP). This platform relies on an 800V architecture and it is the same platform that will allow the car to recharge fully in less than 20 minutes’ time.

    As per reports, the E-GMP platform has also been used in Porsche’s EV, called the Porsche Taycan. The same platform has also been used in the GMC Hummer EV, and the officials of Kia Motors have revealed that the Kia CV will use the same battery technology and will offer a recharge time of below 20 minutes with the help of a compatible fast-charging network.

    Also, the car will also drive in the range of “around 300 miles” and it can also go from 0 to 62 mph in under 3 seconds only.
     
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    https://www.electricvehiclesresearch.com/articles/20886/electric-road-inaugurated-in-lund-sweden

    Electric Road Inaugurated in Lund, Sweden
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    The next-generation Electric Road was inaugurated in the city of Lund in southern Sweden. Behind the initiative is a private-public Swedish consortium, Evolution Road, which is supported and financed by the Swedish Transport Administration. The goal is to test and gain more knowledge about Electric Roads, a climate-smart technology that allows electric vehicles to be charged from the road while driving.
     
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    https://electrek.co/2020/06/15/tesla-upgrades-model-s-402-mile-range-wheels/

    OK, maybe not 400 but 350 - that's more than enough...

    Tesla upgrades Model S with 402-mile range
    Fred Lambert

    - Jun. 15th 2020 8:07 pm ET

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    Tesla has upgraded the Model S, its flagship electric sedan, with a new range of 402 miles — thanks to several improvements, including new wheels.

    Earlier this year, Tesla released a new “Long Range Plus” version of the Model S with an EPA-rated range that was later updated to 391 miles on a single charge.

    The new version of the vehicle was achieved through several small changes over the last year, and Tesla needed to change the name in order for the EPA to give it new rating.

    Around the same time, CEO Elon Musk claimed that Tesla is close to having a 400-mile electric car.

    During Tesla’s Q1 2020 results, Musk claimed that they already achieved it because the EPA made a mistake when testing the new Model S Long Range Plus.

    The CEO claimed that the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) left a door open with the key inside the vehicle during their cycle test — resulting in the electric car not going to “sleep” and draining the battery a little too much.

    The EPA has denied that.

    Now a few months later, Tesla is announcing that it achieved an official EPA range of 402 miles:

    This significant achievement reflects Tesla’s obsession with efficiency and energy frugality, and is realized through several changes, both iterative and transformational, in core hardware and system architecture development by the Tesla engineering, design, and production teams. These changes went into production earlier this year when we first started manufacturing Model S Long Range Plus at our factory in Fremont, California. All Model S Long Range Plus vehicles will receive the new 402-mile rating.

    It should mean that all Model S Long-Range vehicles produced since February should achieve this range.

    Tesla lists the improvements that resulted in Model S achieving a 402-mile range:
    • Significant Mass Reduction: Mass is the enemy of both efficiency and performance, and minimizing the weight of every component is an ongoing goal for our design and engineering teams. Several lessons from the engineering design and manufacturing of Model 3 and Model Y have now been carried over to Model S and Model X. This has unlocked new areas of mass reduction while maintaining the premium feel and performance of both vehicles. Additional weight savings have also been achieved through the standardization of Tesla’s in-house seat manufacturing and lighter weight materials used in our battery pack and drive units.
    • New “Tempest” Aero Wheels and Tires: Our newest 8.5 inch-wide aero wheels reduce aerodynamic drag compared to the previous wheels on Model S Long Range, and when paired with a new custom tire specifically engineered to reduce rolling resistance, add a 2% improvement to overall range.
    • Increased Drive Unit Efficiency: In our rear AC-induction drive unit, we replaced the mechanical oil pump with an electric oil pump that optimizes lubrication independent of vehicle speed to reduce friction. Further improvements to the gearbox in our front permanent magnet synchronous reluctance motors shared with Model 3 and Model Y have resulted in a further increase of 2% more range while driving on the highway.
    • Maximizing Regenerative Braking: Our newest drive feature, HOLD, blends the motor’s regenerative braking with physical brakes to bring our cars to a stop by easing off of the accelerator pedal. To bring the car to a stop smoothly, regenerative braking now works at a lower speed and deceleration rate, sending more energy back to the battery pack while simultaneously enabling a driving experience like no other car.
    Electrek’s Take
    It looks like Elon was right because it sounds like all those improvements were already in the car when the EPA tested it.

    Either way, it’s a nice milestone for EVs, but range is highly dependent on how you drive the vehicle too.

    In order to achieve 400 miles, you are going to have to limit your speed under 70 mph and use the aero wheels with low resistance tires.

    What I find most interesting about this update is that Tesla has started to implement several improvements that they have made with Model 3 to their older Model S and Model X programs.

    Tesla’s rapid improvement cycle and refusal to stick to a model-year system is paying dividends here.
     
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    Tesla Has Top Range In World’s Longest EV Range Test
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    Norwegian road assistance company NAF has completed the world’s longest EV range test. The company tested 29 of Norway’s most popular EVs. They tested the actual range in the summer, what happens when EVs go into power-saving mode, and how they charge in heat degrees.

    During testing, they ran the cars until they were completely out of power in order to measure the actual range and consumption on typical Norwegian roads. The test was taken by ordinary drivers in regular traffic on a route that consists of city and highway driving with speeds ranging between 60 km an hour to 110 km an hour. This test is a followup to the winter version.

    For the route, the cars drove through Oslo towards Gjøvik. This included a climb of 620 meters before continuing towards Dombås. You can see the full route here. The vehicles with the longest range went over two mountain crossings, which gave them a further climb up to nearly 1,000 meters.

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    The top five performers of this test were:

    Tesla Model S:
    • specified range — 610 km
    • actual range — 645 km
    Tesla Model 3:
    • specified range — 560 km
    • actual range — 612 km
    Hyundai KONA electric:
    • specified range — 480 km
    • actual range — 568.4 km
    Tesla Model X:
    • specified range — 507 km
    • actual range — 546.7 km
    Kia e-Niro:
    • specified range — 455 km
    • actual range — 524.7 km
    Before the test took place, all of the cars were charged to full battery overnight. They each started cold (no preheating of the interior or of the battery), and all were running in eco mode or equivalent. The air conditioner was at 20 degrees and the heat was off. Each of the vehicles was tested on the same day and took the same route. The drivers were instructed to drive normally, but defensively, and were encouraged to use regeneration actively in both city driving and downhill.

    Winter Test
    In the winter test, 20 of the best-selling EV models were tested in range, consumption, charging speed, and price. NAF wanted to find out the exact winter range and the extent to which the degrees of cold affected the battery as it charged. The 20 EVs were grouped in pricing categories.

    Price range 1:
    Hyundai KONA electric, Renault Zoe ZE 50, Hyundai IONIQ, Nissan LEAF (40 kWt), Skoda CITIGOe, Volkswagen e-up, SEAT Mii electric, and Volkswagen e-Golf.

    Price range 2:
    Tesla Model 3 LR, Kia e-Niro, Kia e-Soul, Opel Ampera-e, Nissan LEAF e + (62 kWt), BMW i3, and Audi e-tron 50 quattro.

    Price range 3:
    Tesla Model S LR, Tesla Model X LR, Jaguar I-PACE, Mercedes-Benz EQC, and Audi e-tron 55 quattro.

    Part of the winter test was performed in a lab. The vehicles also drove 23 kilometers at four-speed intervals. Part of the test included a drive to a Norwegian high mountain, concluding, “there is not a single electric car that has the same consumption in the WLTP test as it has on a journey from Oslo to Dovrefjell. The speeds are different, there are more up and down slopes, and we drove the cars in wintry temperatures.”

    The top vehicles in each pricing category were:
    Price Range 1
    • Hyundai Kona Electric: 449 km actual range.
    • Renault Zoe Z.E. 50: 380 actual range.
    • Hyundai IONIQ: 311 actual range.
    Price Range 2
    • Tesla Model 3 LR: 560 actual range.
    • Kia e-Niro: 455 actual range.
    • Kia e-Soul: 452 actual range.
    Price Range 3
    • Tesla Model S LR: 610 actual range.
    • Tesla Model X LR: 507 actual range.
    • Jaguar I-PACE: 436 actual range.
    You can see that, aside from Tesla, Hyundai–Kia models do particularly well. That was the general consensus beforehand as well among CleanTechnica readers.
     
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    Voxan Motors Unveils High-Performance Electric Motorcycle Wattman
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    The Wattman is the first high-performance electric motorcycle made by Voxan, specially designed for their latest world speed record project. In July 2021, the Voxan Wattman will attempt to set a new world speed record on the Salar de Uyuni salt flat in Bolivia. Riding this exceptional machine will be six-time motorcycle racing world champion Max Biaggi.
     
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