What do you think about Electric Cars?

Discussion in 'Serious Discussion' started by Katzenfreund, Aug 24, 2017.

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Will your next car be electric?

  1. My next car will be electric

  2. I’ll wait several years for prices to drop

  3. I’m not convinced by them, I’ll buy conventional

  4. I am undecided, far more info is required

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  1. DJboutit

    DJboutit MDL Novice

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    They are nice but right now must do not get enough charge to be really nice to have 250 to 350 miles on a charge would be nice and you could take a road trip
     
  2. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Many already have that - and even more...

    You might want to inform yourself in this very thread, just a few pages back...
     
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  3. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    https://www.electricvehiclesresearc...ll-electric-x-57-x-plane-a-cleaner-way-to-fly

    NASA Is Developing an All-Electric X-57 X-Plane: A Cleaner Way to Fly
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    NASA is developing an electrically powered X-57 plane. The visualisation of the place is generated from a supercomputer simulation of the X-57 "Maxwell" electric experimental aircraft. Just as electric cars are becoming more and more commonplace on our roads each day, aerospace engineers are seeking to make electric air transportation a reality. In pursuit of that goal, NASA is developing its first crewed X-plane in more than 20 years. Compared with conventional aircraft, the X-57 team has set a goal of using five times less energy and - if powered by electricity generated from renewable sources - producing zero inflight carbon emissions.

    The X-57's unique propulsion system, in its final configuration, features 14 battery-powered electric motors and propellers: 12 to provide lift during takeoff and landing, and one at the tip of each wing to provide forward thrust during flight. In order to understand the aerodynamic effects of this design, a team of engineers from three NASA centers - Ames Research Center in California's Silicon Valley, Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia, and Armstrong Flight Research Center in Edwards, California - is using supercomputers to simulate flight conditions for the X-57.
     
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  4. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    I'm not planning on "detonating" any of these - are you?
     
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  5. case-sensitive

    case-sensitive MDL Senior Member

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    Hmmmmmm !!! :) ...... strange that you say that ...... remeber climate change ? ...... and that our only hope is that science develops a new tecnology to deal with it ........ that is on a planetry scale ............ ?

    Sorry :) ...... but we already have it = How to deal with planetry warming ? ......... with a nuclear winter ?

    The powers that be will try to keep / atain control till the bitter end ...... non of them will ' give up ' ...... and what comes after that ? Nuclear war ?


    Human ' civilisation ' is at its weakest point ........ everything depends on electronics and if electronics dont work ....... because of an EMP ...... we are back to the stoneage .
     
  6. case-sensitive

    case-sensitive MDL Senior Member

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  7. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Future: https://pluginamerica.org/autonomou...tent&eId=fa5af0a3-fe0e-48d1-aa0d-d96f01eec0eb

    All autonomous vehicles should be electric
    A shift to autonomous vehicles (AVs) will be one part of the transition to sustainable transportation, in addition to the growing market share of electric vehicles (EVs) and the advance of shared mobility options, such as Zipcar and Envoy. These “three revolutions” working together have the greatest potential to reduce pollution, congestion, and collisions. AVs are a growing technology that consumers, policymakers and regulators should be aware of as a viable transportation option as the market develops. This primer is intended to provide more information on AVs and to highlight the Plug In America principle that all AVs should be electric.

    https://www.greencarreports.com/new...ck-biggest-frunk-ever-miniaturized-drivetrain - 500 miles...

    California-based Lucid Motors has been saying all along that it’s aiming to maximize efficiency in multiple ways.

    On one hand, the Air is the result of a relentless, comprehensive focus on energy efficiency, spearheaded by CEO and CTO Peter Rawlinson. And on the other hand, it’s been designed to be free of the design constraints of internal-combustion vehicles—and what design VP Derek Jenkins has termed the “legacy thinking” of long hoods and wasted space in the name of establishing performance credentials.

    Lucid Wednesday got a step closer to showing how it all fits together. It revealed a series of details about the battery pack, drivetrain, and platform that provide a testament to that efficiency in energy and design.
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    Lucid Air body structure and battery pack

    For one, the Air’s expected EPA range of up to 517 miles is all the more impressive given the announced battery capacity of 113 kwh—suggesting a significant efficiency advantage over the Tesla Model S.

    https://www.electricvehiclesresearc...al-aerospace-unveils-all-electric-flying-taxi

    Vertical Aerospace Unveils All Electric Flying Taxi
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    Vertical Aerospace has revealed the VA-1X flying taxi designed to be a high performing aircraft able to connect entire regions as well as carrying out shorter missions across single cities. Capable of carrying up to five people, a pilot and four passengers, VA-1X is set to be the world's first certified winged all-electric Vertical Take-Off and Landing aircraft, and is on course to start commercial flights in 2024.

    VA-1X will be flown by experienced pilots and certified through EASA, at exactly the same safety levels that are expected from commercial airlines. Vertical Aerospace claim that VA-1X will have exceptional safety levels, inherent redundancy and be a really safe, great way to travel. For further information see the IDTechEx report on Manned Electric Aircraft 2020-2030.
     
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  8. Tiger-1

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    wow interesting, very good post and save nature too :D
     
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  9. monkeylove

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    That's the same problem for the global economy: there's a major lack of roads, electric grids, etc. In short, the amount of energy needed to develop those will require more resources than the earth will allow. And that's doesn't factor in EVs and renewable energy in general which have low energy returns and quantity.

    What makes matters worse is that in order for businesses to invest in EVs and RE, more people have to buy them, and they are the same ones who lack infrastructure.
     
  10. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    All fake "facts"...

    Renewables are more than enough for our needs, if...

    Energy from them is already cheaper than fossil fuel energy.

    Fossil fuel industry is being heavily subsidised and if that money was simply withdrawn from it...

    Imagine what we could do with all those subsidies put into renewables....

    Btw, all that info is already in this thread but every so often some clever dick chooses to ignore the elementary facts and parrot the conservative narrative based in the interests of oil, coal etc. industry...

    So, back to the drawing board for you...
     
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  11. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    https://www.offgridenergyindependen...wer-through-the-desert-using-just-solar-power

    Igus Helps Team Power Through the Desert Using Just Solar Power
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    A solar powered car using igus plain bearings has raced its way across more than 1,800 miles of Australian desert - helping Team Sonnenwagen win sixth place in the World Solar Challenge 2020.

    https://www.greencarreports.com/new...e-fastest-charging-ev-300-miles-in-20-minutes

    Lucid already suggested a week ago that its upcoming Air electric luxury sedan might offer the longest EPA-cycle range of any EV—an anticipated 517 miles.

    Now it’s already topping that with what many electric-vehicle enthusiasts will see as an even more impressive claim: that it’s the fastest-charging EV.

    Lucid announced Wednesday that the Air can recover up to 20 miles of range per minute of charging, corresponding to an actual peak charging power of more than 300 kw. While that’s a jaw-dropping potential burst rate—likely at a very specific state of charge and with ideal conditions—Lucid’s claim in real-world charging situations is unparalleled: 300 miles of estimated EPA range back in just 20 minutes.

    https://www.theverge.com/21365032/p...rive-electric-android-automotive-photos-range

    [​IMG]Photo by Andrew Hawkins / The Verge
    DRIVING THE POLESTAR 2, THE FIRST ELECTRIC CAR WITH A BRAIN BY GOOGLE
    “Hey Google, how do you compete with Tesla?”

    (...)

    But the Polestar 2 is not just any EV. It’s the first electric car — or really the first of any kind of car — to have a brain exclusively powered by Google. This native Android Automotive operating system controls everything from the radio to heating and air conditioning to navigation. You can even use Google Assistant to turn on the seat-heaters: “Hey Google, my butt is cold.”
     
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  12. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Tera Hurst
    This is how you respond to a crisis!

    Gavin Newsom
    We’re experiencing a climate CRISIS. Transportation is responsible for over 50% of CA’s greenhouse gas emissions. It’s time to be as bold as the problem is big. Today we announced that by 2035 every new car sold in CA will be an emission free vehicle.
     
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  13. AndrewRoss26

    AndrewRoss26 MDL Novice

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    it's actually high time to buy an electric car, however I'm waiting for any company to create a car which will be able to be not charged at least for 2000km
     
  14. case-sensitive

    case-sensitive MDL Senior Member

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    > I'm waiting for any company to create a car which will be able to be not charged at least for 2000km

    Hmmmmmm ....... thats easy .......... you could do that now ......... and billions of kilometers ........ = just dont charge the car and buy a bycycle ? :)


    >Today we announced that by 2035 every new car sold in CA will be an emission free bycycle ......
     
  15. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Right, surely you mean electric bicycle?!?:rolleyes:

    Nice, a practical EV with 2K km radius, eh? Well, that would be nice to see - of any kind of engine...:rolleyes:
     
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    Chevrolet Releases California-Compliant Horse And Buggy

    September 25th, 2020

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    DETROIT, MI—General Motors is making waves after a surprise unveiling of a line of exciting new California-compliant vehicles. After a week of building anticipation, officials at the company revealed its latest innovation for the West Coast: the 2021 Horse And Buggy.


    The curiosity started last week when GM's Twitter account dropped a cryptic photo of a lone carrot with the phrase "It's coming." Finally, at a live event this week, officials at the company pulled the cover off a stylish, elegant carriage pulled by a powerful single horse.

    "We had to re-think everything," said lead designer Abraham Moses Jehoshaphat from rural Pennsylvania. "With California outlawing gas-powered cars, we had to research new technology for propelling a four-wheeled vehicle forward. After countless hours of research and billions of dollars, this is what we came up with. It's an organic, intelligent engine capable of listening to your voice commands and even reproducing other engines. A true miracle of modern science. Levi Berkenbosch from down the road donated it, which is nice. Her name's Sal."

    The 2021 Horse & Buggy will come in a one or two horsepower option. Instead of dirty fossil fuels that make Mother Earth cry, the Horse & Buggy will be powered by organic oats and carrots, which can be picked up at your local Whole Foods for $12,000 per pound. Instead of plush bucket seats, riders will be treated to a solid oak plank carved from a single tree that will crack your pelvis every time you hit a pothole.

    "The only downside to this amazing machine is you have to stop every 23 feet to pick up poop," said Jehoshaphat. "Although, if you're riding it through a San Francisco tent city no one will probably notice. Also, this old girl's a little skittish around fire, which I hear could be a problem in California."

    Chevy confirmed they plan to release many more exciting new California-compliant models in the future such as the "Chariot," the "Flintstone," and the "100 Giant Helium Balloons Tied To A Harness On Your Back." You're welcome, Mother Nature!

    SOURCE: https://babylonbee.com/news/california-to-replace-cars-with-new-greener-horse-drawn-carriages
     
  18. amajmon

    amajmon MDL Member

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    I would want one.
     
  19. talhaaxhar

    talhaaxhar MDL Novice

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    Electric cars are boring they don't have very great pickup speed thing and they look disgusting so straight no i will never suggest to buy an electric car.
    Thanks have a nice day.