What do you think about Electric Cars?

Discussion in 'Serious Discussion' started by Katzenfreund, Aug 24, 2017.

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Will your next car be electric?

  1. My next car will be electric

  2. I’ll wait several years for prices to drop

  3. I’m not convinced by them, I’ll buy conventional

  4. I am undecided, far more info is required

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  1. Bat.1

    Bat.1 MDL Expert

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  2. gorski

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    Indeed, if this is the case - better encased battery pack is needed!
     
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  3. Dark Dinosaur

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    Poor earth
    Produce car batteries for this cars
    Cost earth more than 10 years of driving fuel car
    And they don't recycling, and car can't be fixed.
    Thanks for nothing
     
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  4. zen45

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    they can build all the batteries they want but there going to have a problem charging them ! they dont have extra power and in the winter there talking about brownouts and power shortages , the west coast is running out of enough water for the dams to create power the Colorado river is running out of water with every body draining water from it, others wanting dams torn down because of the salmon runs are running out, the electric car will be a good thing but they need to create the extra power for them first ! its like creating a train with no tracks the tracks have to come first !
     
  5. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Never heard of recycling, Dark Dino?

    Americans should invest, Zen45, in renewables...
     
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  6. Dark Knight

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    Fact is any battery , no natter what it is has a finite lifespan after that it must be discarded. You can speak on recyclables and renewables all you want but even they will need to be discarded at some point in time, either due to failure or damage due to accidents or any other number of scenarios.

    EV's sound like a great idea now but sooner or later will pose yet another environmental issue , EV waste dumps.

    There are over 7 Billion people on this plant , even if just half of them eventually drove EV's , eventually the battery waste dumps will pose an environmental problem because none of it is biodegradable.

    It doesn't matter how green you go, if anything has to be manufactured , the remnants of that manufacturing and waste will eventually pose an environmental risk, we see it all over the world, and it is not just the U.S., household waste dumps, battery waste dumps, tech waste dumps and the list goes on. So before you get all holier-than-thou Mr. Gorski, I wonder how many waste dumps are sitting under the country you live in that is poisoning the environment?

    If it does not grow organically on this planet, it is going to destroy something and something will pay the price.

    There is no real green solution, at least not yet, the human mind is centuries away from a truly green solution, by the time we get there it may be too late.
     
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  7. gorski

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    Not "discarded" but recycled. No "waste dumps" but recycling plants. Quite a bit of difference...

    I wrote about it here a number of times - have a little read back...

    I agree that our technology could and ought to be improved, though! Pronto!

    But then again, this is what Science and Technology relentlessly are doing. There's just no stopping them in that regard... Nature of Human Beings...
     
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  8. Dark Knight

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    But even recycling plants produce waste ....... there is no getting away from it. Unless that waste is or was organically grown and can be reintroduced into the environment, the waste from that product poses an environmental risk.
     
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  9. gorski

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    That's a world away from your unqualified and rather inflammatory statement before I called it out...

    We are now looking forward to "circular economics", not based in senseless and idiotic idea of constant and infinite growth (under all circumstances, with *use and abuse*, discard "attitude" being the prevalent one) - on a finite planet etc.

    Capitalism is killing this planet, period! In capitalist economic jargon these things are called "externalities" and that means *take as much as you can and pollute as much as you can get away with* and "who gives a flying f**k, so long as you get loadsa money, tons of profit out of it" - and the coming generations of Humans be damned!!!

    Well, does that seem OK to anyone here?!? Guess what: to prevent this we must stop the fossil fuel being the foundation of our economy!

    Then, we must invent better ways to get our energy from renewable sources and materials used must be recyclable...

    Any ideas better that that?!?
     
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  10. Dark Knight

    Dark Knight MDL Senior Member

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    Hydrogen or Bio-fuel powered vehicles are a much , much cleaner option than electric. Hydrogen is the universes most abundant resource and bio-fuels will not hurt the environment.

    I'll just drop the mic here.
     
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  11. case-sensitive

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    And the only ' possible ' future i can see is a world like mad max ........... where people in rich countrys have a minimal chance of survival ............. and africa and asia are back in the stone age .............. and then we all die of radiation poisoning .

    Electtric cars is a grotesque ken and barby looser fantasy . Who the f**k can afford them ? Its tunnel ' thinking ' in circles .......... people to afraid / stupid to be realistic ......... people trying to keep the world as it is now .......... wich is impossible .
     
  12. gorski

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    Nonsense, from start to finish!

    You can't stop science and technology! Period! Both power/electricity production and storage tech is advancing, soooo...

    To produce hydrogen in the form usable for cars - costs a packet, it uses a lot of energy, soooo...

    Biofuel is murder for the environment, ergo...

    I mean, don't people read at all?!?
     
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  13. Bat.1

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  14. case-sensitive

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    Gorski

    The positiion that your in now is the same as the qanon people ........... totaly out of touch ........... ego and vanity in circles ......... a total rejection of reality . And it doesnt matter what anyone says they keep believeing in their moronic fantasys and dig themselves deeper and deeeper Cutting themselves off from reality and the rest of the world .


    What your posting are the worst sort of capitalist fantasy adverts ...... with blinkers on . Portraying a mary popins world wher everything is clean and shinny shiny ........... and the 6 billion poor people dont exist .

    Instead of investing your ' intelligence ' in being ' bolshy ' why not stop getting a kick out of causeing trouble and wanking your ' ego ' in other peoples faces .......... why not try to be a good person ? To help ? To try and solve problems and not just bathe in them like a pig in s**t .
     
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  16. case-sensitive

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    #1396 case-sensitive, Oct 25, 2022
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    Both sentances are seperate with seperate connotations . Your taking boith sentances out of context . Wich is what i was talking about ........ = Stop trying to be a clever dick ......... and failing .......... why not try to improve ? ......... To optimise ? ....... To help ? ...... To heal ?
     
  17. gorski

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    Crickey...

    @ipx ... Maybe not 2 faced... Say, here is a list...

    I would add "subject" to the list - 2 opposite meanings at the same time...

    This guy fits the bill, in as much as he constantly contradicts himself... he's all over the floor... and pretends not to notice...

    But he knows... and keeps using those nasty drugs messing with his mind... So, can't take him seriously at all...
     

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  18. case-sensitive

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    LOL . Again you both prove what i say . You've made some ignorant asumptions . I pointed it out and instead of asking me to try to explain your confusion / ignorance to you you continue with more .
     
  19. gorski

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    One of us is utterly ignorant and prejudiced - and it ain't me...
     
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    Good thoughts . Good words . Good deeds .