What do you think about Electric Cars?

Discussion in 'Serious Discussion' started by Katzenfreund, Aug 24, 2017.

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Will your next car be electric?

  1. My next car will be electric

  2. I’ll wait several years for prices to drop

  3. I’m not convinced by them, I’ll buy conventional

  4. I am undecided, far more info is required

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  1. ballilla

    ballilla MDL Novice

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    fraud to raise car prices
     
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  2. Dark Dinosaur

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    #1402 Dark Dinosaur, Oct 27, 2022
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    fraud that kill earth
    1- not re-cyclable
    2- not repairable\fixable
    3- make them produce more waste than 10 years of using 1 gas based car
    4- to produce energy to charge this f* s**t cars, it cost us in environment disaster
     
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  4. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Like your wish that who knows how many of us would die as of yesterday, C-S...???

    Darky, it's called "investment", that's the word you are searching for. Why wasn't it done properly in the US? Don't play coy...

    As for re-cycling etc. - the info is here, if you search a bit... Including how EVs fare v. ICE in the long run, too!

    If you present only a partial picture - you're a manipulator or manipulated!
     
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  5. nodnar

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    let me make a few suggestions about running cars on batteries.

    -you cannot store enough electrickery to get a decent range.
    - there is no infrastructure to charge them.
    -those batteries need to be made with a-class quality nickel.
    -using up enormous amounts of energy to get it out of the ore.
    -the former soviet union is sitting on all the resources.
    - that means that the western industries will be dependent
    on uncles wladimir goodwill to get it, at a price, of course.
    - any blacksmith can fix a car that runs on good ole gas.
    -you cannot fix a car that runs on batteries, pinky.
    - if you throw away a car that runs on batteries, you will
    leave a lot of resources in the bin.it needs enormous
    amounts of energy to get it recycled.

    - i rest my case.
     
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  6. Dark Dinosaur

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    nope … I am not a manipulator
    just don't say that those cars are green cars
    they produce same waste if not more as gas cars
    and marketing / labeling them as green cars of the f* future
    that is a Froud - but a good one o_O

    And Elon Musk is the manager of this Froud,
    he promote them, as a future of the human
    as a replacement for gas cars, but for now
    they are the same as gas cars
     
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  7. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Both of you are absolutely wrong on elementary facts! I wrote aplenty about it here, quoting independent researchers galore. Feel free to inform yourselves - IF you care so much about the truth of the matter...

    In short: read up but not only from those bolstering your prejudices!!! Right now you sound like "Pretty Polly!" "clever birds", speaking through the BP/Shell arse... Well trained, both of you! Wow!
     
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  8. case-sensitive

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    gorski MDL Guru

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  10. Bat.1

    Bat.1 MDL Expert

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    That article is all about Highway fires and fires after wrecks :g: Can you find one with the number of fires by type when the autos are sitting in someone's garage not being used :)
     
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  11. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    The articleS are RELEVANT!

    If your Lordship is not satisfied with them perhaps your Lordship could do a relevant search by himself?!?
     
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  12. Bat.1

    Bat.1 MDL Expert

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    I didn't say the article wasn't relevant. :confused: You got that from the voices in your head :confused: I should realize the number of electric cars catching on fire while not in use isn't rElEVanT to trolls trying to push the pipe dream. :dunno: The battery technology isn't ready and may never be. Awe Hell it isn't any use arguing with Idiots. You Win :clap3: That always makes the kids happy on Twitter at least o_O
     
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  13. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Idiots are people who - like you - only see what's in front of their noses!

    Polyphase electricity system was once "a ruse for idiots"...

    We now live in that "ruse"...

    Can't stop Science!

    Or technology!

    Eeejut!
     
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    Bat.1 MDL Expert

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  15. zen45

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    electric cars are nice but they built the cart before the horse, they dont have a reliable power source out west their running out of water power electric generation and people dont want nuclear power, what are they going to use to create the extra power coal, oil, natural gas , when winter come's where is the extra power to heat the homes going to come from? at least with gas cars they knew where the fuel was coming from ! how many electric charging stations are around where you live and how many are needed to care for your area? can you afford one built into your garage? electric cars would be great in big city's no air pollution from them maybe in 10-15 years someone will come up with a working solution for the problem but for right now there is none !
     
  16. Bat.1

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    https://www.rt.com/business/567562-switzerland-electric-vehicle-ban/

    Switzerland may become the first country to limit the use of electric vehicles (EVs) in a bid to ensure energy security this winter, German daily Der Spiegel reported on Thursday.

    Under the proposed action plan, which is yet to be adopted, the use of EVs in the country could be banned except in cases of “absolutely necessary journeys.” The government also plans a stricter speed limit on the highways.

    The harsh restrictions are being discussed as the government fears a power shortage in the coming months, due to the country’s high dependence on imports.
     
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  17. gorski

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    Schock, horror!
     
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  18. Joe C

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    Electric is very ignorant. There is a limited supply of "Rare Metals" that are required to make these batteries (These Rare Metals do entail slave labor from poor African countries and very low wages from the Asian countries). What part of "Rare Metals" do you not get?

    Why do you not support Hydrogen vehicles that would be much better than EV's? and much better for the ecology?
     
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  19. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    You "think" there is no research going on to invent new tech, which would involve different chemistry to store energy? We (I in particular) have written many, many times about it? Why don't you at least minimally inform yourself beforehand, before making an arrogant pontificating barsteward out of yourself?!? Do you really think that we don't know about it or that we somehow approve of it?

    Do you attack Elon Musk re. his "We'll coup who we want. Deal with it!" addressed to Bolivians who kicked out both him and Bechtel before him and did not allow American corporations to usurp their water first and then lithium deposits?!? Because I certainly did! So, I don't take any lessons from the likes of arrogant and ignorant you, thank you very much!!!

    American car manufacturers were bailed out by American government, which manufactures coup d'etat everywhere it pleases - does that make you cringe and want to move abroad, where you can then cry crocodile tears about other countries?!?

    We are talking about all aspects of electric vehicles, unlike you!!!

    So, very ignorant and uninformed.

    Besides, hydrogen requires a lot of energy to produce. Potentially very dangerous in collisions etc.

    Or... Which part of slave labour in American jails do you not understand? Do you boycott your own country?

    How about political prisoners in America? How about jailing or attempting to jail publishers, journalists or whistleblowers instead of the perpetrators of war crimes and so forth?

    Do you think that America subsidising its food production to incredible levels and then destabilisng other countries by their "food donations" (see Colombia) is a good thing? Look what the peasants there then produced... How did that work out for you?!? And how did it work out for them? Now they must fight insurgents because people there had no option but to take up arms... Then, Americans were "helpful" to sell the Colombian gov arms, ammunition, "weed killers", sell them training and so on... Swell country you live in! Gas guzzlers galore, using humongous amounts of energy, disproportionate to their size. And you're gonna pontificate to others what to do?!? My, my...

    Very hypocritical!

    GO on, "teach" us some more, why dontcha...
     
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