What do you think of Apple products?

Discussion in 'macOS' started by Katzenfreund, Apr 11, 2017.

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What do you think of Apple products?

  1. They are high quality and reasonably priced

    46 vote(s)
    11.4%
  2. They are good quality but expensive

    236 vote(s)
    58.6%
  3. They are regular quality and overpriced

    121 vote(s)
    30.0%
  1. r33p

    r33p MDL Novice

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    iOS 13 ipados 13 = awesome
    MacOS any version= terrible locked in pos
     
  2. K4onashi

    K4onashi MDL Debugger

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    #162 K4onashi, Sep 18, 2019
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    @vze2mp9g

    Your responses are extremely counter intuative. You can slow down hardware by underclocking and reducing voltage. That's exactly how you slow down hardware.

    And this is exactly what Apple do when a battery module reports erronious capacity to the software, it underclocks the CPU. So disregarding slowdown from superceeding updates, pf100 was actually correct.

    Take it from someone who has been repairing Apple garbage for 10+ years. And that's exactly what their hardware is, f**king utter garbage for pansies created by engineer kids out of college, sold at a wasteful price.
     
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  3. vze2mp9g

    vze2mp9g MDL Addicted

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    I've been in the Technology Industry since the mid 1980s. Again, when you install NEW SOFTWARE on an older computer / device, yes it will run much slower. If you don't want to get a new coomputer / device every two or three years, DO NOT install the new OS.

    How simple is this?!?

    Apple along with other developers, M$ as well, do the same thing. Same thing for everything eldr! If you want the latest and best performance, you have to get a new (what ever) computer / device! Call my responces "extremely counter intuative" is only telling me that you know everything. Everything I post are from my point of view, and from my forty plus years of experience.

    Everything works the same way, as we get older, we start slowing down. It's called getting older. Do you keep your first automobile or ten to twenty years? I know I don'y. It cost to much to keep. My advice to your commen, is KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid). It does no good complaining about things unless you can do better.
     
  4. K4onashi

    K4onashi MDL Debugger

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    #164 K4onashi, Sep 19, 2019
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    @vze2mp9g It's simple, and really you seem to not be getting it or listening. I agreed to the fact that s**t slows down with age, it's true. But Apple is clocking down processors and I know this for fact.

    Comparing clock frequencies to before and after iPhone battery replacements I saw drops in frequency up to 700MHz, after replacing the battery the phone jumps back up to stock clock. You then put the old battery back in the clock drops again. Apple said they did this already so not to tax batteries. So again, how simple is this? It's very simple. Apple slows down the iPhone to stop taxing the battery. Slows down the hardware. It's that simple. There was a lawsuit for this which Apple apologised for.

    Yes, stuff slows down with age. And yes, Apple does slow down their chip.

    I never said I know more than you. That was an assumption. But I will tell you I can recite every voltage expected at each power rail on every macbook, iphone or ipad.
     
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  5. vze2mp9g

    vze2mp9g MDL Addicted

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    Okay, no harm done. I didn't know you can change the batteries in an older iPhone and make it run better.
     
  6. jerseyboy

    jerseyboy MDL Novice

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    iOS 13 has brought along some new improvements, "dark mode", for instance. The Apple eco-system is rather nice albeit, like with everything, it has it's shortcomings...
     
  7. vze2mp9g

    vze2mp9g MDL Addicted

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    I have a iPhone XS Max and upgraded to 13.0 and I was unable to Wireless charge my iPhone with iOS 14.2, I had no issues. Then upgraded to iOS 13.1 and the problem still remains.
     
  8. maddogster

    maddogster MDL Member

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    there is ios/ipados 13.1.2 now :) soon more but updates are good when they fix the problems unlike useless android having to wait for hardware numbskulls who would rather sell hardware than update OS like real windows/windows server and ios; ok linux updates kernel and then you wait for your distro to update but still better than useless android security patches and os updates other than maybe google hardware at the top end :) :(
     
  9. vze2mp9g

    vze2mp9g MDL Addicted

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    Thank you, just updated to iOS 13.1.2..
     
  10. maddogster

    maddogster MDL Member

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    if that don't fix upcoming 13.2 should come with more fixes and features but still weeks away or less :)
     
  11. jerseyboy

    jerseyboy MDL Novice

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    Apple watch 4 with latest OS6 is stable, reliable, and a lot of fun.
     
  12. Ken Hardner

    Ken Hardner MDL Novice

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    All of my products are apple and I like them so much, they are easy to use
     
  13. Super Spartan

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    I just switched from android/Windows to all Apple with a MacBook Pro 15 and an iPhone 11 Pro. Couldn't be happier. everything just works with no worries of updates breaking this or that or drivers. I love the integration between devices as well. Do one thing on one device like add a contact or take a pic and it's instantly on the other.
     
  14. Brent Lorris

    Brent Lorris MDL Novice

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    they are so expensive. But its quality are very good
     
  15. RJARRRPCGP

    RJARRRPCGP MDL Senior Member

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    Yeah, if you're talking about a motherboard with no MOSFET heatsink or a platter HDD, which a noticeably slow HDD, would mean it's failing.
     
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  16. I can only say this about the iMacs, to where I've had a positive experience with them over the years (of my college days and more recently at my place of work). Since 2015, I was going to think about switching to one but I kept faltering for some reason.

    I do agree that iMacs as well as other of Apple's products are so expensive but, I was informed by an Apple Store employee years ago that they can be cheaper when it comes to hardware configuration for them (for example, not needing an SSD contributes to a much lower price of it overall). If I'm correct though, Macbooks are way more expensive :eek:
     
  17. bekdan1988

    bekdan1988 MDL Novice

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    I've positive experiences with all my Apple products (MBP 2015, iPhone 7, Apple TV)
     
  18. pablomorfer

    pablomorfer MDL Novice

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    Overpriced, if you are a developer then you have some apps that you can't get on windows.
     
  19. whoisandras

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    I feel like quality and durability is falling behind big time. While there are great technological advances, they could go further however the issue is not this. There are few unacceptable problems that would require attention in my opinion.

    I have a mid 2014 MacBook Pro, picked it up refurbished, good price and works amazingly great. However my friends 2017 Touch Bar MacBook Pro has the screen issues "flex gate" the has not even been addressed by Apple.

    I did love my original i4, i5, i5S, SE and recently picked up a brand new iPhone 7 which is pretty amazing to be honest. So thing is I love Apple because of its operating system on all devices. Wish they would keep to their principles of quality first over money.