What is the cleanest way to disable MS spying in Win10?

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  1. s1ave77

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    #81 s1ave77, Feb 11, 2017
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    Exactly, in case one needs to update more than the machine in front of him, it's very comfortable to use WU only indirectly for checking and in the end for confirming satisfaction.

    My WU is set to manual and Windows sees my Ethernet as metered. So far nothing was installed without my permissions.

    Only thing is; i use WUSA for online update installs, found it more error proof.
     
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  2. Nucleus

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    Knew I'd seen something by abbodi. Never used this one but here's the post.

    abbodi - Windows 10 Updates Installer

     
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  3. Katzenfreund

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    ...but as you guys pick the updates to install, do they tell you of side effects, like changing your settings, which is commonplace, not to mention more serious ones, also including side effects and interdependencies with future updates, plus interactions with system mods you've carried out?
     
  4. Nucleus

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    #84 Nucleus, Feb 11, 2017
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    @ Katzenfreund - For me and the method I use (post), it's to hide all the updates for the Office 2016 components I don't have installed. Eg: I don't want tons of updates for PowerPoint, OneNote, Access and the other Office stuff I don't have installed, so I hide them then update Office. MSI Office you still get offered all the updates for that stuff, no idea how C2R Office deals with updates. Each patch Tuesday I run WUMT, check and hide all the not needed Office updates then let it install updates.

    If updates applicable to W10 LTSB show, I might let WUMT do it or grab the links for the .cab's and manually download and install as Dawgy posted just earlier. Never had a problem to date. Seem to recall it's pretty easy to unhide stuff in WUMT too.

    As previously mentioned too, those guys who keep the Hotfix Repo updated are quick off the mark posting direct links to new updates, it's just another option.
     
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  5. Feniksrising

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    Tangentially related: am I mistaken in thinking that Enterprise users are less "spied" on than Home users? Someone should compare the EULA between the different windows versions.

    I can imagine MS doesn't want to be sued if setting telemetry to "secure" doesn't do as advertised.
     
  6. c6p0

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  8. Nucleus

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    #88 Nucleus, Feb 12, 2017
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    Possibly worth mentioning again - KMS Telemetry:

    Code:
    Disable KMS Telemetry:
    Group Policy Editor (gpedit.msc)/Computer Configuration/Administrative Templates/All Settings/Turn off KMS Client Online AVS Validation/Enabled
     
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    #89 endbase, Feb 12, 2017
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    And who want to set telemetry to an minimale here is the reg

    Code:
    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\DataCollection]
    "AllowTelemetry"=dword:00000000
    
    
    
    Greetz base :tea:
     
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    #90 MS-BOSS, Feb 12, 2017
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    @ c6p0 - did you have any trouble at all, with anything, before or after Windows updates, by setting all that you have below?

    All I did so far is turn everything OFF under Privacy, set Diagnostic to BASIC + disable Cortana and set Windows update to 2 (notify). I've set OneDrive not to start with Windows in it's own settings in the taskbar.

    If you have no problems at all with all what you did, I'm thinking of applying the rest as well, but have some questions.

    - Why disable KMS AVS validation, does that disable checking if Windows 10 is activated? Or is it something else?

    - I've read that you can't set Telemetry to 0 (Security only) on a Windows 10 Pro but only Enterprise. Are you using Pro and you are able to do it?

    - If you disable MAPS, will Windows Defender still work normally, updates and scans and all?

    Thank you!
     
  11. s1ave77

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    Nah, although sounding familiar, your's looks like using WU GUI :cool2:.
     
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  12. c6p0

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    #93 c6p0, Feb 12, 2017
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    - If you have no problems at all with all what you did, I'm thinking of applying the rest as well, but have some questions.
    Note I also uninstalled most of windows apps with CCleaner (as some of them can not be uninstalled through Windows). Everything works and I also carefully checked for any error messages in the event log. I have no error linked to what I did

    - Why disable KMS AVS validation, does that disable checking if Windows 10 is activated? Or is it something else?
    "This policy setting lets you opt-out of sending KMS client activation data to Microsoft automatically. Enabling this setting prevents this computer from sending data to Microsoft regarding its activation state."
    As i used the local KMS activator from MDL h--ps://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/28669-Microsoft-Toolkit-Official-KMS-Solution-for-Microsoft-Products , no need to tell this Microsoft :D

    - I've read that you can't set Telemetry to 0 (Security only) on a Windows 10 Pro but only Enterprise. Are you using Pro and you are able to do it?
    Yes, this is true. Only enterprise version support this. Read h--ps://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/itpro/windows/manage/configure-windows-telemetry-in-your-organization#telemetry-levels

    - If you disable MAPS, will Windows Defender still work normally, updates and scans and all?
    Yes, update and scan work perfectly. The differences are 1/ nothing is sent to Microsoft in case of virus found 2/ it does not use Microsoft cloud for checking but only local database updated daily. You can even detect PUA (Potentially Unwanted Application) with MpEnablePus=1 (Entreprise Only)
    h--ps://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/mmpc/2015/11/25/shields-up-on-potentially-unwanted-applications-in-your-enterprise/
     
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  14. s1ave77

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    #95 s1ave77, Feb 12, 2017
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    No CCleaner needed :cool2:.

    Get all Store Apps List:
    Code:
    powershell -executionpolicy remotesigned Get-AppxPackage
    
    For removal add all names to set command line:

    Code:
    set "allappsremove=Bing, getstarted, photos, camera, store, xbox, netflix, twitter, messaging, windowscommunicationsapps, alarms, skype, zune, soundrecorder, phone, maps, people, office, candycrushsodasaga, farmville2countryescape, minecraftuwp, royalrevolt2, facebook, appconnector, 3dbuilder"
    for /d %%a in (%allappsremove%) do powershell -executionpolicy remotesigned Get-AppxPackage *%%a* ^| Remove-AppxPackage -verbose
    
     
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  15. c6p0

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    you are right, powershell can be used to remove Windows Apps
    i just found CCleaner more user friendly

    h__ps://i.imgur.com/BEvaUWd.png
     
  16. Enthousiast

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    CCleaner chops them out, and can cause troubles later on.
     
  17. s1ave77

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    Would never trust CCleaner or OOSU since they are very diffuse when it comes to documentation.

    On the other hand even MS warmly recommends the powershell route when it comes to unattended Setup and all related to automatted Deployment of Windows.

    The same applies for reinstalling them in a batch, that's why this way is considered very safe :good3:.
     
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  18. c6p0

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    I agree, Powershell is the recommended way to remove apps
    I was "lazy" last time I did it
     
  19. calpo

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    #100 calpo, Feb 12, 2017
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    @s1ave77

    Hello,

    I'm new to Powershell. Please tell how to run these command lines in Powershell.

    Thanks so much for your help.