which version of office 2010 are you installing x86 vs x64 and why

Discussion in 'Application Software' started by armada, Apr 24, 2010.

  1. snowflake

    snowflake MDL Novice

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    It is not that simple. Advantages of using 64-bit Office are few:
    1. If you you use massive amounts of data in Excel or Project you may need to handle filer larger then 2GB.
    2. Office 64-bit can use hardware-based DEP in 64-bit native Windows.

    Disadvantages:
    1. Thera are hardly any 64-bit addins yet,
    2. 64-bit Access MDE-files does not work across platforms,
    3. Many other applications interacts directly with Office (active X or by third party plugins), most of them will not work with Office 64-bit,
    4. OLE can cause problem due to differences in bit size, embedding a 32-bit object in a 64-bit application may cause problems,
    5. Applications using VBA needs to be validated, API calls especially.

    I would not recommend my clients to install 64-bit Office unless they absolutely need it. Indeed, Microsoft themselves recommend 32-bit installation on 64-bit systems.
     
  2. wetpuppy

    wetpuppy MDL Novice

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    #22 wetpuppy, Jun 6, 2010
    Last edited: Jun 6, 2010
    Word to the wise: Avoid 64-bit Office 2010

    By InfoWorld Tech Watch
    Created 2010-05-27 08:47AM

    When Windows 7 [1] hit the stands, most advanced users reveled in the fact that 64-bit Windows had finally come of age. In spite of a few driver and application compatibility problems, 64-bit Windows 7 promised faster speeds, access to more memory, improved security, and the ability to run a whole new crop of killer 64-bit applications.

    Well, I have seen the future of 64-bit killer applications, and it ain't pretty.

    [ Should you run 32-bit Windows 7 or 64-bit Windows 7? See InfoWorld Test Center's Windows 7 bitwise FAQ [2] for the straight scoop on Win7 bittedness. ]

    The retail version of Microsoft Office [3] 2010 -- which will hit store shelves shortly -- includes both the 32-bit version and the 64-bit version of Microsoft's latest application suite. Those of you who get your bits through Software Assurance already have access to both the 32-bit and 64-bit flavors right now. Whether you love Office 2010 (see the Test Center's Top 10 Office 2010 features for business [4]) or hate it, make sure you understand the problems people have encountered before you entrust a real, production machine to the 64-bit evil twin.

    The OS requirements are quite exact. You can only install 64-bit Office 2010 on a sufficiently updated 64-bit Vista, Windows 7, or Windows Server 2008 machine. Those of you stuck with 64-bit XP or Server 2003 need not apply. And installing the 64-bit version from the retail DVD requires a bit of adroitness: Navigate to the DVD's \x64 folder and run setup.exe from there.

    Potential benefits of the 64-bit version include Excel's ability to handle spreadsheets larger than 2GB (a real whopper of a spreadsheet), Microsoft Project's ability to accommodate similarly enormous projects, and native Data Execution Protection for potentially improved security.

    So what's not to like? Plenty.

    None of your old Office add-ins will work in the 64-bit world. They have to be rewritten and recompiled specifically for 64-bit Office 2010. In some cases, programming controls commonly used in the 32-bit world aren't even available in 64-bit. (Details are available in the MSDN Library article [5] on compatibility.) Microsoft now offers conditional compilation support that differentiates between 32-bit and 64-bit, so sufficiently savvy programmers can write 32-bit and 64-bit ActiveX controls at the same time, but every single line of old code has to be examined and, in many cases, rewritten.

    If you have Web applications that work with Office, they may fall over and play dead, too. Even Microsoft has had trouble with SharePoint co-existing with 64-bit Access. Syncing Outlook 64 with Windows mobile phones may not work as expected. OneNote integration isn't working right -- even at this late date, nobody's entirely sure what integration problems bedevil the evil twin.

    Some of the supposed benefits of 64-bit may be illusory at best. For example, if you create a 64-bit Excel spreadsheet that's bigger than 2GB, anybody who needs to edit it -- or even look at it -- had better be running 64-bit as well.

    Microsoft knows all about the 64-bit problems, although the 'Softies hardly trumpet the shortcomings in their marketing material. If you know where to look, you can find the whole story. For example, the official Microsoft Office 2010 Engineering blog [6] puts it this way:
    If you're trying to decide between 32-bit and 64-bit Office, you should ask yourself what your needs are. Are you an Excel power user working with huge amounts of data? Do you need to work with file sizes greater than 2GB? If so, then you would benefit from 64-bit Office being able to utilize more memory. If not, we're recommending 32-bit Office 2010 as the default installation on both 32-bit and 64-bit Windows mainly due to compatibility with existing 32-bit controls, add-ins, and VBA."
    Few people remember, but Office 2003 had a 64-bit version. It failed so badly Microsoft passed on a 64-bit Office 2007.

    Office 2010 64-bit has all of the hallmarks of a traditional Microsoft "version 2.0" product -- it works, but not like it should, and it doesn't play well with others. Wise folks will wait until version 3.

    This article, "Word to the wise: Avoid 64-bit Office 2010 [7]," was originally published at InfoWorld.com [8]. Get the first word on what the important tech news really means with the InfoWorld Tech Watch blog [9].
     
  3. marcusj0015

    marcusj0015 MDL Junior Member

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    im on windows 7 Ultimate x64 on all machines

    and im installing 32-BIT! office for one reason


    no plugins work in x64
     
  4. jrdambros

    jrdambros MDL Novice

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    Now it's important!
     
  5. snowonweb

    snowonweb MDL Novice

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    Am I missing something here. I just downloaded MS Office 2010 Trial as clicked through hotmail link and it brought me to 32bit version even though I use win 7 x64. Then I figured that perhaps I should use the ie8 x64 to get my office trial but it still gave me 32bit version. So then I clicked on buy link and didn't see nothing for x64 office except for small paragraph that states that this office works fine on x64 windows through wow emulation. Can anyone please point me to office 2010 x64 on ms website.

    Thank You
     
  6. Smorgan

    Smorgan Glitcher

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    See the office 2010 repo download links and just give the retail copy or volume copy a try....
    SO many office 2010 threads why can't they just ask in the office 2010 repo...
     
  7. snowonweb

    snowonweb MDL Novice

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    #27 snowonweb, Jun 16, 2010
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    I am sorry if I didnt make myself clear. I have seen all those office 2010 links but I havent seen x64 version on official office 2010 website. Looks like Home and Business and Proffessional Plus Suites are avaliable for trial but even if I click on any other suit and go all the way to check out I still do not see x64. So does the DVD contain both versions when you buy and installs appropriate version during install (as I have read on infowworld.com) and if thats the case why my trial version installed into x86 folder. Or perhaps TRIAL versions are limited to 32bits only? In reg ProgramFiles/../office14 I only have two files. onfilter.dll and custom.propdesc. I mean, I do run x64 win 7.
     
  8. MasterDisaster

    MasterDisaster MDL Expert

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    Get your 64bit download link from this [post]277702[/post].
     
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  9. flare4000

    flare4000 MDL Senior Member

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    Lol that's why I stick with the most develope version for Microsoft products.