why does orbit30 has to steal the hazar loader?

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by sauronxxx, Jul 30, 2009.

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  1. secr9tos

    secr9tos MDL Addicted

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    maybe 42, I mean what else could it be?
     
  2. jas0nuk

    jas0nuk MDL Junior Member

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    Oh, oh, between the keyboard and the CHAIR. Sorry. ;)

    Edit: seriously though, some computers don't seem to like the grub loader, might just be a hardware issue.
     
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  3. jackdor

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    a thief calling a thief a thief. hypocrites so you make some software so you can steal software from microsoft than when someone steals you software you cry wolf lmao :D
     
  4. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    You have just highlighted the irony of the situation which is quite humorous, but amongst us lot that kind of stealing is unnaceptable
     
  5. jackdor

    jackdor MDL Member

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    what`s this?.robbers code?...you can rob anyone else...but dont rob the robber!!! :D
     
  6. FreeStyler

    FreeStyler MDL Guru

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    Seen various lo*ders posted here all using the same technique created by the chinese, some with a pimped GUI and others as simple batch files, the conclusion is they are all based on the chinese lo*ders, so the real credits should go to the chinese ;)

    So Hazar's release is NOT his release, it is a variation of existing technique!
    orbit30 release is NOT his release, it is a variation of existing technique!

    stupids kids, trying to gather some repect end credits...sigh :mad: :confused: :eek:
     
  7. damox

    damox MDL Novice

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    This post is ridiculous, the concern isn't that Hazar or orbit30 have used an existing technique, damn them for not doing it all in an unseen format.

    The problem is:

    Hazar's release is a variation of existing technique!
    orbit30 release is NOT a variation of existing technique, it is Hazar's release.
     
  8. FreeStyler

    FreeStyler MDL Guru

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    Says who? Hazar? :)

    Wake up!
     
  9. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    Well I made that loader entireley myself. Sure the chinese may have already done it, but I did it better. Anyway praising the chinese in general for being good hackers isn't right is it? Race does notaffect intelligence, environment does. I completley rewrote it with new SLICs and some neat code to mount / unmount the boot partition + more so stop saying I'm just trying to get credit.
     
  10. jackdor

    jackdor MDL Member

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    #30 jackdor, Jul 30, 2009
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    if you steal things from one than have thing stolen from you then what go's around come around :D don't it.

    i would like to say thanks to all the peps that have made it possible for me to steal win 7 from microsoft :D
     
  11. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    Well you stole from them XD look I just really think what orit did was unnaceptable, the cracking scene is all about pride and prestige, not copy n paste ;)
     
  12. FreeStyler

    FreeStyler MDL Guru

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    Can be, the underlaying technique remains the same, eg: Grub
    Another 1000 or so called loaders will come out whenever new slics/Certs/keys are leaked... are they all stolen from you/based on yours?

    Get a life, they are all based on the Grub loader, everything around it is just a shell to simplify/automate the installation
     
  13. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    This is getting boring now
     
  14. FreeStyler

    FreeStyler MDL Guru

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    Glad, so it worked, i pissed you off by telling people here the truth? :)
     
  15. jackdor

    jackdor MDL Member

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    chill out boys just in joy life :D
     
  16. Goodge

    Goodge MDL Novice

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    Hazar - I believe you are claiming that Orbit30's "option 2" is stolen from you, correct? If so, what does his "option 1" do? If he developed his own (for option 1), and bundled yours as option 2...I don't really see a problem here. Presumably both of yours don't work 100% of the time, so he's just trying to get a loader that works for everyone, all the time.
     
  17. bigaloguy

    bigaloguy MDL Novice

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    Well, he took his code and used it in his work without giving any credit. That's still stealing.
     
  18. bigaloguy

    bigaloguy MDL Novice

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    Nah, you just came out an a$$.
     
  19. Goodge

    Goodge MDL Novice

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    I wouldn't consider this the "release" version...so for all you know the "option 2" button is intended to say "Option 2 - Install Hazar loader"...and ultimately...it's all stealing.
     
  20. Berny

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    And WHY, WHY isn't that important? Before Hazar's release you had to mess up with disk management before being able to install the activator. Hazar solved the main reason why windows 7 loaders install was so difficult to use and now, thanks to him, it's easy and all completely automated.

    What Hazor did requires a deep knowledge of the windows disk management architecture and a lot of time to dedicate. What Orbit did instead was just a copy&paste: he copied exactly the entire release Hazar made and released it under his name, giving him no credit. He should be put to shame for that.

    There have been many threads closed on this forum because of people who just repackaged other people's loaders, with little to no work other than some pretty splash screens. Orbit30 did exactly that so he deserves shame and his download links being deleted.