Why moving to Linux to avoid Microsoft spying is impossible for most people

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  1. yro

    yro MDL Addicted

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    people are mistaken thinking that these kind of things/tools/options are "spy" thing...

    a lot of lunatic ideas going on in mdl forum these days of windows 10 release..
     
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  2. Skaendo

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  3. Superfly

    Superfly MDL Expert

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    Not that difficult...

    A general comment:
    It's nice to see the new generation Linux user coming through...Don't let those intent on CLI and stuck in the dark ages put you off...
     
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  4. winbond

    winbond MDL Novice

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    What is Zeitgeist?

    Zeitgeist is a service which logs the users’ activities and events, ... aka spyware
     
  5. yro

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    #426 odiebugs1, Sep 14, 2015
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    Disable it. For paranoid.

    Code:
    sudo mv /etc/xdg/autostart/zeitgeist-datahub.desktop /etc/xdg/autostart/zeitgeist-datahub.desktop-inactive
    rm ~/.local/share/recently-used.xbel
    mkdir ~/.local/share/recently-used.xbel
    rm -rf ~/.local/share/zeitgeist
     
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    yro MDL Addicted

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  10. winbond

    winbond MDL Novice

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    i don't really care what it logs, i don't want it on my system
    if those logs already exist, what's the purpose of creating zeitgeist?
     
  11. winbond

    winbond MDL Novice

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    #431 winbond, Sep 14, 2015
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    this is an ugly hack that prevents REcreation of the recently-used.xbel log,
    the problem you have after that is you get a boatload of errors in another log file every time system tries to write to that log,
    why is there no command/option to disable the log? perfect example of how linux is slowly but surely becoming win10
     
  12. Fckr

    Fckr MDL Member

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    MS starting from Vista has a feature called NCSI(Network Connectivity Status Indicator) where it performs DNS lookups(on MS domains) and fetches a text file(from MS website). Is that calling home, too? Is that a spy service, too?

    Personally, if you are a first timer and made up your mind that you had to use Linux, I'd recommend Ubuntu Desktop. Once you are more comfortable with that, you can start looking around for other options.
     
  13. pirithous

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    #433 pirithous, Sep 14, 2015
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    recently-used.xbel is part of how GTK works for GTK applications. There are more advanced ways to disable it than this, but here's an easy way:

    Code:
    user@linux: echo "" > ~/.local/share/recently-used.xbel
    user@linux: sudo chattr +i ~/.local/share/recently-used.xbel
    I don't see any harm in recently-used-xbel. If someone gets physical access to your machine, or gets access through a rootkit, it's all over anyway. If you are using drive encryption like LUKS, then you wouldn't have to worry about it.
     
  14. winbond

    winbond MDL Novice

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    #434 winbond, Sep 14, 2015
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    i have no doubt about it
    thank you, tho i'm positive it works, it does pretty much the same thing the other hack does,
    aka prevents writes to the log file but it won't disable logging service and
    it will not stop errors in other log file, (i think the kernel log, dont remember exactly)
    well you might no see the harm, the question i have however is: who are they writing the system for? for the users(aka us) or for google and nsa?
     
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  16. Fckr

    Fckr MDL Member

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    Isn't that exactly what NSA is supposed to do?

    If such is the line of argument, then one might very well say that OpenSSL Heartbleed was handiwork of NSA. :)
     
  17. Skaendo

    Skaendo MDL Addicted

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    If you are talking about Ubuntu/Canonical then they are going to make it so that they can make money off of it, which IMO is fine as long as your not tracking/spying/data mining and selling that to third parties. Like Canonical is doing.
     
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  19. SOCRATE_MMXII

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    If MS spies, linux spies...how about BSD? :D
     
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  20. pirithous

    pirithous MDL Member

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    How about we stick to facts, not hyperbole?