WIN 10 Upgrade vs WIN 10 Clean Install

i doubt it will come from a leak for it to be valid

 

Am familiar with and have used DDU in the past--so, good advice...! The interesting thing here is immediately after I installed 10162 through an upgrade from 10159, the CCC crashed and simply would not run--driver was installed and OK, just not the CCC. But immediately after the clean install the CCC was up and has stayed up without a qualm ever since. It was a new driver, too....15.200.1023.7 as opposed to the 15.200.1023.5 driver I had used up to 10162. It's possible that an uninstall of the driver with DDU would have solved the problem with the upgrade build, but then I'd be wondering what else got botched in the upgrade? Just goes to show that the IP internal upgrades have some formulaic problems and the iso clean install is definitely the superior route...

 

one thing i did notice with upgrading which has carried over from previous builds,is that my start menu shows 4 medium tiles wide in each section,i assume it's supposed to be 3,i'm glad it stayed 4 wide,i prefer it like that so i don't have to do any scrolling on the start menu at all.

 

i wont be doing a clean install on 2 of my main computers,just too much trouble,have way too much to re-download with steam games dlc ect,the kid would kick my butt,anyway i have no troubles so far with my upgrades,on my other spare computer i may do a clean install sometime in the future,but i see no reason to,so far.

 

And with a little luck and a lot of hope, nobody will have to have a reason to clean install because of anything that might happen during an upgrade. BUT BACK UP THE SYSTEMS EVERYONE lol, image that drive before even winking at that evil MS Cortana!

 

IMO a Clean Install is not by any means different than the upgrade. You'll just lose all your data.

I've been upgrading my insider machine since 10130, it's really no big deal, if you consider they just replace the system files, and upgrade your installed programs folders.

It's 2015, people should get over the clean install. Just Upgrade, if it fails, refresh your system.

But i guess refreshing could be considered a Clean Install? I'm confused.

 

If an upgrade is a must (no such thing as MUST after first Win10 free upgrade), I would AT LEAST suggest cleaning the current system prior to doing the upgrade. Clear out all that old crap that is left in the registry and system folders from however many years or months of uninstalled programs and changes that are still jammed into the system. --Almost-- everything that is installed and or/uninstalled comes or goes clean. Your system is riddled with leftover junk and changes that are specific to programs that are no longer used or uninstalled. Clear the logs, clean the HDD, make sure the system is at least in a clean state before upgrading.

Just so much crap from a system that is left behind that can/and generally does cause issues. Once 10 goes RTM, you will see hundreds of posts about HELP HELP HELP because of people not taking the time to just start a clean install. Programs and settings that can be done again, backup files that are being worked on and save the rest of the world a little hassle from having to solve problems with an upgrade that in the end, a large majority will end up clean installing anyway to fix the problems from the sloppy upgrade of laziness.

And yes I understand an upgrade must be done for the free upgrade before a clean install of win10 can be done. So be it, let it crap on the hardware and then get the toilet paper out and wipe it clean.

 

what do u do if u run out of toilet paper

 

use an MS users shirt sleeve

 

It will be a circus for sure. All these people chomping at the bit to install/upgrade and operating system that hasn't even been released. Nothing is known about any of the inner workings of the final version. It is set to be released in less than three weeks, and yet there are endless threads and speculation of what will be in the final version.

May I remind all these "gotta have it now" people that there are two things to consider. The first is that every version of any operating system, or program ever offered by Microsoft has a Service Pack issued after the initial release to fix everything that is wrong with the initial release. Think 8.0 -> 8.1. All versions of Office have had service packs issued after the initial release. The other thing I will be waiting for before I do anything with the new version of Windows, would be to wait for comments and suggestions from Daz.

There is no doubt in my mind that Daz and other very sharp people here on MDL will dig deeply into the inner workings of the new release, and will give a thumbs up, or down to any activation problems. Unless, and until, either of those two things happen, I won't be doing any kind of upgrade.

Besides, ask yourself this question. What does your current system *not* do that you think the new version of Windows 10 *will* do that your current system cannot?

 

Give me more FPS in games. Until you can rip WDDM levels and backport them, higher WDDM versions = performance improvements (subtle in most cases, but still there nonetheless), regardless of DX level. That, and you have DX12 as well (although part of me would prefer Vulkan to be a bit more popular).

You also have game streaming with the Xbox One. Afaik, that is only happening with Windows 10. If I had a Xbox One, that'd be the main selling point for Windows 10 for me

Plus, there's all sorts of fixes and improvements in a lot of places compared to older operating systems that you can bet Microsoft isn't going to waste time with backporting (just take a look at all those changelogs between official and leaked builds; you think all those changes are going to end up back on 8.1 or even 7?)

So sure, your current Windows OS may work alright, but in most cases, it'll work better on 10. And that gap will only increase as time goes on. I don't know about other people, but I like getting the best out of my hardware

 

I take it you mean you installed the preview on your main machine? This would mean that your licence is 'in the ether', you need to do the upgrade from your activated Windows 7 to Windows 10 RTM, then activate, before you can clean install Windows 10 or do anything else. If you installed Windows 10 Insider Preview and you don't have a backup of your Windows 7 (like a lot of people) the only chance of being activated once RTM comes around is to remain on the insider program and get new post-RTM builds as they become available.

 

let me tell what u will see in the final version.....the same thing u see now