WIN11 24H2 POPCNT

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  1. MrNico98

    MrNico98 MDL Junior Member

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    WIN11 24H2/ Windows 12
    Windows 11 24H2 and Windows 12 in addition to the classic requirements (TPM 2.0, Secure boot) will require the CPUs to have the POPCNT instruction

    can it be bypassed?
     
  2. tilltotell

    tilltotell MDL Novice

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    Same quesstion. Anyone ?
     
  3. tilltotell

    tilltotell MDL Novice

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    has this issue since build 25905, 25398 is the last one can boot normally.
     
  4. Jessie Pinkman

    Jessie Pinkman MDL Addicted

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    probably wait and see when it actually shows up cause its still in testing stage
     
  5. bjf2000

    bjf2000 MDL Expert

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    If it can't be bypassed I'd be surprised. Hasn't everything around here been bypassed? I can certainly see there being no MS-sanctioned bypass though.
     
  6. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    #6 acer-5100, Feb 13, 2024
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    If they compiled some binaries relying on a specific CPU feature, there is nothing to bypass, you have to recompile

    No. Artificial limits (like the TPM requirement) can be removed, some hard block can be patched (like the ones in Win8), but if s specific feature is mandated as a compile option there is nothing practical that can be done.

    BTW I can't tell anything first hand to the OP specific problem. My newer (but unsupported officially) HW works perfectly as 26052, my older one is blocked since the arrival of 259xx.
     
  7. atgpud2003

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    I had read about it new coming up 24H2.. Not again.. You can setup to not to update 24H2 by go to Group Policy and Set to 23H2 this will stay there until 24H2 resolve to bypass it TPM 2.0, CPU and etc..OR wait comes out Windows 11 LTSC.

    ATGPUD2003
     
  8. Dark Dinosaur

    Dark Dinosaur X Æ A-12

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    let's say you use an external HDD/SSD and use `wimlim-imagex` and apply the wim file
    windows will able to load or not? this is how I install my system. usually.
     
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  9. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    No need to use a external hdd when vhdx are so handy. You don't even need to boot it in the physical machine, HyperV would be more than enough to test, given the cpu isn't emulated, if a feature is missing, is missing for the Vm as well.
     
  10. acer-5100

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  11. tilltotell

    tilltotell MDL Novice

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    hop a solution there.
     
  12. pm67310

    pm67310 MDL Guru

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    sse4.2 => all cpu from 2010 are ready
     
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    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    #15 acer-5100, Feb 15, 2024
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    People usually ask for a problem they have.

    Anyway, AMD introduced sse4.2 in K10 Barcelona (Phenom) in May 2007, so K8 Athlon 64 and perhaps my Turion X2 (Tyler), released in May 2007 as well, still doesn't have them.

    Turion II (Caspian) from Sep 2009 are the first mobile AMD that have the instruction

    Intel introduced them in Nov 2008, first generation Core i7 (Nehaelm and Westemere) and Mobile Core I3/I5I/I7 (Arrandale) in 2010

    On the other hand Atoms and some Celerons/Pentiums didn't get them until 2013 (Silvermont architecture)

    In short 2010 means nothing, there is a SIX years time-frame from 2007 to 2013 where a random CPU may work or not.
     
  14. pm67310

    pm67310 MDL Guru

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    celerons / pentiums are bad cpu for windows 11 totaly useless
     
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    "celerons / pentiums are bad cpu for windows 11 totaly useless"

    Simple to understand sentence but hey why not make it confusing?

    "Another meaningless sentence.
    There are Pentiums and Celerons based on practical any architecture across decades"
     
  16. atgpud2003

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    Maybe or not.. I have anti-virus anyway. I also have TPM 2.0 installed.

    ATGPUD2003