win11 requires TPM 2.0, is this a deal breaker?

Discussion in 'Windows 11' started by god_paul, Jun 25, 2021.

  1. chocoboss

    chocoboss MDL Junior Member

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    M'y AMD FX motherboard do bit support TPM or UEFI

    This computer is nearly 10 yo now but it still more than decent for web browsing, basic computing and light gaming ...
     
  2. parafer

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    For now (unless anything changes) just drop Win11 install.wim in Win10 iso. I'm running Win11 live now on 10 year old mobo with Sandy Bridge CPU and installed it on MBR. Not one nag or message. Things may still get tightened or loosened, but I foresee no major issues here. I already made a build using sysprep on Win11 install in VM, used autounattend.xml for fully automated install with activation. Once I connected my old wifi dongle Win11 possessed the drivers for it already, and from there it automatically download all my hardware drivers, including for my old 6850 ATI/AMD card with DirextX11, no problem.
     
  3. maxama123

    maxama123 MDL Senior Member

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    What is your build number?

    Is this an insider build and if so, will the insider build get updated to RTM or final Win 11 Official release?
     
  4. parafer

    parafer MDL Member

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    At first I used the leaked build, but now I'm working with 22000.51.210617-2050. I'm updating it in sysprep VM at this moment (there's a dotNET update) and will make another build based on that. Quite a bit has changed in the UI already from the leaked build. This is early days, it will probably be October before final build comes out so this all just playing for me.
     
  5. Enthousiast

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  6. itsmemario1

    itsmemario1 MDL Expert

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    Lets wait and see if MS will enforce TPM in one or another way in the near future...
     
  7. KleineZiege

    KleineZiege MDL Expert

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    Everything is possible but it is still in the stars
     
  8. KleineZiege

    KleineZiege MDL Expert

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    but i also assume, that you force people to buy new hardware, if that should be the case, there is a boom effect, TPM modules that cost 9 euro are all sold out
     
  9. KleineZiege

    KleineZiege MDL Expert

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    what surprises me is that you can install a windows 11 image in mbr mode in the vmware.
    what bypasses the vmware
     
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  11. YankeeRuze

    YankeeRuze MDL Novice

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    Quoted Portion Of Text: "Upon approval from Microsoft..."

    How positively revoltingly elitist. Nadella has to drop his son-of-a-civil-servant-doing-the-plebes-a-favor mentality and start focusing on the problem that his solution-in-search-of-a-problem has created.

    Again, I must question Nadella's investment portfolio and how much he has wagered on the companies that make components that are supposed to be necessary (loosely defined) to properly install Windows 11.

    My New York Sensibilities (tm) continue to tell me that something is amiss, or missing completely, in Redmond, WA.
     
  12. SAM-R

    SAM-R MDL Guru

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    All of 2 Posts & you think you know everything .
     
  13. nosirrahx

    nosirrahx MDL Expert

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    It does look like there is a move to get everyone away from TPM 1.2/no TPM and CPUs without in-silicon mitigations. New OEM systems being sold is also going to make them and hardware manufacturers a lot of $.

    The question is, will there be an actual legit carrot that makes me look at Windows 10 as inferior?

    I would be willing to bet there will be an incoming Direct-X that is "...incompatible" with Windows 10.
     
  14. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    There is in fact DX tech that is incompatible with win10.
    I've been looking into Direct Storage which is supposed to boost the performance such that it mimics the effect of having twice as much video ram.
    Well supposedly you need at least a 1tb ssd. I'm not sure if you need a high performance nvme or if a standard sata will work.

    I'm not even sure if this stuff is in the current builds. I think there are other promised features that will be locked out of win10.
     
  15. nosirrahx

    nosirrahx MDL Expert

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    I know about direct storage and that is not quite what I mean. What I was talking about is more like DirectX 10 and Windows XP incompatibility.

    I can see a new set of graphical APIs that allow for better looking and/or performing games. I can easily see Direct X 13 being a Windows 11 exclusive to push the gaming crowd over.
     
  16. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    Well I have heard a lot about Auto HDR, but a whole new API? I haven't heard anything about that.
     
  17. nosirrahx

    nosirrahx MDL Expert

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    Neither have I but just think of all the $ people spent on inflated prices recently. You need to give them something spectacular to get them to upgrade, I don't see direct storage being enough.
     
  18. Hadron-Curious

    Hadron-Curious MDL Guru

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    The best way is for them to make both the TPM and processor generation requirements optional when installing Windows 11. I really don't know why Microsoft Windows 11 team is not seeing this as a good way to address these requirement problems.