Windows 10 D-S-T-DEZABLER

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by RanCorX2, Jan 16, 2017.

  1. RanCorX2

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    i couldn't work with any of the tools so i just ended up doing the batches.

    i know i'll sound like an advert but the ntlite prog is really easy to use and quick, the key is to contact the auother and tell him to remove options that break stuff.
     
  2. Enthousiast

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    Ntlite is by nuhi (nlite), i thought it was JFX?

    And it's made for chopping :D
     
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  3. sobre27

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    #204 sobre27, Mar 24, 2017
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    rancorx i know its easy and have a very beautifull gui explaining what all the packx do, driver integration, regedit integration etc etc but for 50€ b*tch please... i prefer to test/fail test/fail on a VM for 2 or 3 weeks and discover what is ok to chop and what is not, i'm not a coder but problably ntlite chops stuff with pure dism like msgm tool or wintoolkit, but if he chops the packs + winsxs and reg keys well... :worthy: in that case the 50€ are well paid :D
    for now i'm testing with pure dism(1) and wim_tweak(2), i think s1ave77 on some post explains why he prefers the wim_tweak metodh not 100% sure.
    or an easy and fast away is to grab your bats and run them! but i need some hobby so... :p
    managed to get a 8gb Windows Folder and a 2gb .wim without a hugee chop on a pro version, atm i'm downloading at 300kps :mad: a LTSB PT hoping its not portuguese-brazilian trying to make a main OS system. i'll add the packages chopped later.
     
  4. RanCorX2

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    #205 RanCorX2, Mar 25, 2017
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    i'm narrowing down the stuff in ntlite that breaks windows 10, so i'll know what to not remove, i've also revised my batches somewhat, trying to make a safer removal.

    still using iwt to do clenaups & folder cleanup batches.

    iwt + ntlite + folder cleanup batches + reg cleanup


    edit, naaaa your right man, after lots of testing, i've found ntlite deletes some things windows truely needs and you can't prevent this, good app but flawed at removals also the activation system is terrible, you can't copy it to another pc you own and then import the license as the app has lame anti piracy protection which forces you to waste activations, authors solution was "make a system snapot or fiddle with mac adddresses etc"

    poor.

    guess it's back to the batches.

    when i get round to it, i'll re-share them, still got some errors to correct and some other things to try.
     
  5. sobre27

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    the folder cleanup batches will give you a lot of work for sure man glad you are doing that :D

    MountPath : "C:\win10\tmp"

    ------------------Starting-----------------
    Mounting registry file... OK
    Writing to Log (Packages.txt) 1836/1836OK
    -------------------Ending------------------
    Unmounting key... OK
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "Unmounting Image"
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    1836packx maybe i can reach -60 /-70 doubt i can go further than that.
     
  6. RanCorX2

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    have you noticed the open with edge button you now get in ie?

    it goes away when you uninstall edge :D
     
  7. sobre27

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    #208 sobre27, Mar 26, 2017
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    i don't have ie raconrx :p lol

    i'm on the 16xx packages i'm still manage to remove IIS addons Homegroup and some more windows features i'm almost reaching the limit on a offline iso.

    edit: if you want i will post later the driverstore name.infs that people don't need like floppy drivers etc if you are interested in doing some bat removers :biggrin:

    edit: rancorx added these telemetry b*tches to your services.msc batch

    sc config TieringEngineService start= disabled
    sc config CDPUserSvc start= disabled
    sc config CDPUserSv start= disabled
    sc config OneSyncSvc start= disabled
    sc config MessagingService start= disabled
    sc config PimIndexMaintenanceSvc start= disabled
    sc config UserDataSvc start= disabled
    sc config nistoreSvc start= disabled
     
  8. RanCorX2

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    made a batch file to do appx cleanup removes just over 2gb
    registry enteries remain, too much work to do...haven't found a tool to batch remove stuff from registry...if such a tool exists???

    made a batch to remove leftover files removes a further 114mb / 179 files

    merged driver removals into one batch

    made a batch to remove unused kb layouts

    made a batch to remove other some other stuff, bio and speech files, printdialog etc

    all in all, starting to feel much less metroish now.

    will upload when done testing.


    /offtopic

    ditched startisback and went back to classic shell, found a sweet xp skin :biggrin:
     
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    #211 RanCorX2, Mar 27, 2017
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    yeah i do that, i don't why everything get's more bloated, nvidia drivers, photoshop, windows etc...i thought new software was meant to improve on previous versions, devs have a funny way of thinking.

    guess they never heard of LESS is MORE.

    btw what browser you using? the only reason i've chosen to plump with ie is all the other browser have became bloated and full of useless features i don't need, ie seems to stay the same, sure it's a bit buggy at times but it's light of memory usage and does what i need it to do.

    to be honest i'd still be using wmp if ms would add an aspect ratio setting but no........mpc-be+madvr+lav+reclock
    i found the original mpc-hc more unstable, i also tried media player dot net but it's not very good + media center remotes don't work with it

    i slimmed down photoshop a few months back, by editing the installer files, so it's almost cloudless...if you use photoshop you might be interested.

    oh and removed the restricted codes packages, media foundation packages and windows media format packages yesterday from my install, no probs, apart from no evr/sync renderer but i use madvr.

    reinstalled media foundation and media format packages, some games refuse to load complaining mfplat is missing and windows media feature is required.
     
  11. sobre27

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    #212 sobre27, Mar 27, 2017
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    i don't use photoshop for years man! i just use Paint atm :D

    Chrome + Ublock Origin + Https Everywhere
    Winamp
    MPC-HC +LAV +madVR +Reclock (Need to try BE!)
    Steam
    7Zip
    thats basically what is installed on my main OS wich is a gaming/media OS :biggrin: about the browser, i tried Yandex (Opera Based) but it had some flash problems but it looked like a pretty decent browser, if you find something let me know, tor is not an option for me, it is too damn slow
    About the Chopping, wim_tweak took ages to remove stuff so the tests are tooking longer, like 1h30, to remove on a clean .wim
    i'm on the 1740 packx with some features yet to remove +remove the majority of the fonts, all cursos, infs from the driverstore and languages
    +probably tomorrow i will post the packages left to get some input of you man!
    Before i Forget:
    DriverStore infs:

    SD Adapters:
    c_sdhost.inf_amd64_639f9a24896b98aa
    sdbus.inf_amd64_842128363543f606
    Batterys:
    battery.inf_amd64_8e3050ad7a27ade1
    c_battery.inf_amd64_22b69239c8cf799e
    cmbatt.inf_amd64_811ce4ec12153c7a
    hidbatt.inf_amd64_121aa0dcb74d77e1
    Bluetooth:
    bth.inf_amd64_0ed9858b9b899077
    bthleenum.inf_amd64_a274b2812788ef00
    bthprint.inf_amd64_9fe212a8af2308f0
    c_bluetooth.inf_amd64_510e50dda9a05143
    mbtr8897w81x64.inf_amd64_95c17bcc45ee90c4
    Floppy Disk Controllers:
    fdc.inf_amd64_e18897d1dab5c1ee
    c_fdc.inf_amd64_ea6ecad361f00454
    Biometric Devices:
    c_biometric.inf_amd64_79c0aacdf441c4df
    Infrared Devices:
    c_infrared.inf_amd64_54be5b85cb00d3c5
    SmartCard Filters:
    c_smartcardfilter.inf_amd64_410c5851e3a451d2
    scrawpdo.inf_amd64_d225ec05ab4ec147
    Smart Card Readers:
    c_smartcardreader.inf_amd64_7939e340fd7bd0de
    tpmvsc.inf_amd64_a87477d19287433f
    wudfusbcciddriver.inf_amd64_ed394cac94f6bb4b
    Miracast Display Devices:
    miradisp.inf_amd64_635b75f9877541ef
    PCMCIA:
    c_pcmcia.inf_amd64_1eadfa700eb2c4cd
    pcmcia.inf_amd64_57052b759d40ad5a
    Smart Cards:
    c_smartcard.inf_amd64_0bb0d8d77a61789f
    msclmd.inf_amd64_62709cf9ecd1133b
    scunknown.inf_amd64_1cda0097c385bcd1
    Xbox Peripherals
    xusb22.inf_amd64_532555cdc331f5de
    dc1-controller.inf_amd64_e8cad36be97275f
    *will edit with printers modens etc

    *edit dont forget to upscale with the new NGU filters on madvr :D

    * edit forget the driverstore you already did it in your batches hehe:worthy:
     
  12. RanCorX2

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    yeah i've done all the drivers, i need to do my services removal again though as things went weird.

    also you can now remove shell experience host and not get a popup when clicking the windows button, looks like they removed the stupid popup in rs2!

    i've noticed that clock and network flyout no longer works on my install, don't care, found netsetman which gives back classic network settings for lan and wifi.

    there's also a classic clock available.
     
  13. MonarchX

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    Not sure which of these tweakd disabled my Xbox One controller... Would any of these tweaks mess with Windows 10 Hotspot feature? I connect to the internet via Ethernet connection that I share through my Wi-Fi card for my mobile devices using these commands:

    start C:\WINDOWS\System32\NETSH WLAN Set HostedNetwork Mode=Allow SSID=X Key=X
    start C:\WINDOWS\System32\NETSH WLAN Start HostedNetwork

    as well as enabling connection sharing in Control Panel - Networking - Connection properties.
     
  14. RanCorX2

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    #215 RanCorX2, Mar 28, 2017
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    you'd need to look in device manager and check which driver you need to re-enable for the xb1 controller.

    not sure about the hotspot thing, never used it, but my wifi and ethernet are working.

    @Sobre27

    added a few more services;


    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\AppXSvc]
    "Start"=dword:00000004

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\TimeBrokerSvc]
    "Start"=dword:00000004

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\tiledatamodelsvc]
    "Start"=dword:00000004
    breaks taskbar right click...

    settings app still works and so does win key + x as well as taskbar properties via settings app which is the only app left on my pc now.
     
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    #217 RanCorX2, Mar 29, 2017
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    yeah i use a wii u pro controller which i prefer to the 360/xb1 controllers, seem to have better bluetooth range and they fit my hands better.

    ^ nice xp-ish process list. i'm still working on the file cleanup, i've perfected my driver removals though.
    also removing the windows bluetooth packages seems to remove portable devices package as well.
    i have an old lumia which i repurposed as a mp3 player with a 200gb msd, when i rebooted it was uninstalled and unknown.
    so you have re-add the portable devices package.

    here is the windows media / media foundation safe removal list;

    Microsoft-OneCore-Multimedia-MFPMP
    Microsoft-Windows-Media-Format-Package (keep a copy of wmvcore.dll as some video editors need it)
    Microsoft-Windows-Multimedia-MF-multimedia-Package
    Microsoft-Windows-Multimedia-RestrictedCodecs (ok if you have lav, ffdshow or any other codec pack installed)
    Multimedia-RestrictedCodecsExt (ok if you have lav, ffdshow or any other codec pack installed)


    network flyout no longer works for ethernet or wifi, now using NetSetMan, all ya network stuff from the tray.
    for bluetooth still on toshiba stack, works fine with the ms drivers removed as well as the main shell packages.

    managed to remove (temporary moved for the mo) most of the immersive shell dlls from system32/wow64
    settings app still works as does start menu and taskbar. will post a list when finished.
    nearlly de-metroed.
     
  17. RanCorX2

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    #218 RanCorX2, Mar 29, 2017
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    below is a list of the immersive shell dlls i've removed from system32,
    tested and start menu, settings app and taskbar all work.

    Code:
      Directory of C:\Users\VMWARE\Desktop\32\immersive ui, shell, settings\
    
     
     
       C:\Users\VMWARE\Desktop\32\immersive ui, shell, settings\
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       Windows.AccountsControl.dll        
       Windows.ApplicationModel.LockSc... 
       Windows.ApplicationModel.Store.... 
       Windows.ApplicationModel.Store.dll 
       Windows.ApplicationModel.Wallet.dll
       Windows.CloudDomainJoinAUG.Prox... 
       Windows.Cortana.Desktop.dll        
       Windows.Cortana.OneCore.dll        
       Windows.Cortana.ProxyStub.dll      
       Windows.Data.Pdf.dll               
       Windows.Devices.AllJoyn.dll        
       Windows.Devices.Background.dll     
       Windows.Devices.Background.ps.dll  
       Windows.Devices.Bluetooth.dll      
       Windows.Devices.Custom.dll         
       Windows.Devices.Custom.ps.dll      
       Windows.Devices.Enumeration.dll    
       Windows.Devices.Haptics.dll        
       Windows.Devices.HumanInterfaceD... 
       Windows.Devices.Lights.dll         
       Windows.Devices.LowLevel.dll       
       Windows.Devices.Midi.dll           
       Windows.Devices.Perception.dll     
       Windows.Devices.Picker.dll         
       Windows.Devices.PointOfService.dll 
       Windows.Devices.Portable.dll       
       Windows.Devices.Printers.dll       
       Windows.Devices.Printers.Extens... 
       Windows.Devices.Radios.dll         
       Windows.Devices.Scanners.dll       
       Windows.Devices.Sensors.dll        
       Windows.Devices.SerialCommunica... 
       Windows.Devices.SmartCards.dll     
       Windows.Devices.SmartCards.Phon... 
       Windows.Devices.Usb.dll            
       Windows.Devices.WiFi.dll           
       Windows.Devices.WiFiDirect.dll     
       Windows.Energy.dll                 
       Windows.Gaming.UI.GameBar.dll      
       Windows.Gaming.XboxLive.Storage.dll
       Windows.Globalization.PhoneNumb... 
       Windows.Graphics.Display.Bright... 
       Windows.Graphics.Printing.3D.dll   
       Windows.Graphics.Printing.dll      
       Windows.Help.Runtime.dll           
       Windows.Internal.Bluetooth.dll     
       Windows.Internal.Feedback.Analo... 
       Windows.Internal.Feedback.Analo... 
       Windows.Internal.Management.Sec... 
       Windows.Internal.SecurityMitiga... 
       Windows.Internal.ShellCommon.Br... 
       Windows.Internal.UI.BioEnrollme... 
       Windows.Internal.UI.Logon.Proxy... 
       Windows.Management.Provisioning... 
       Windows.Management.SecureAssess... 
       Windows.Management.SecureAssess... 
       Windows.Management.Workplace.dll   
       Windows.Management.Workplace.Wo... 
       Windows.Media.Audio.dll            
       Windows.Media.BackgroundMediaPl... 
       Windows.Media.BackgroundPlaybac... 
       Windows.Media.dll                  
       Windows.Media.Editing.dll          
       Windows.Media.FaceAnalysis.dll     
       Windows.Media.Import.dll           
       Windows.Media.MediaControl.dll     
       Windows.Media.MixedRealityCaptu... 
       Windows.Media.Ocr.dll              
       Windows.Media.Playback.Backgrou... 
       Windows.Media.Playback.MediaPla... 
       Windows.Media.Playback.ProxyStu... 
       Windows.Media.Protection.PlayRe... 
       Windows.Media.Renewal.dll          
       Windows.Media.Speech.dll           
       Windows.Media.Speech.UXRes.dll     
       Windows.Media.Streaming.dll        
       Windows.Media.Streaming.ps.dll     
       Windows.Mirage.dll                 
       Windows.Mirage.Internal.Capture... 
       Windows.Mirage.Internal.Capture... 
       Windows.Mirage.Internal.dll        
       Windows.Networking.BackgroundTr... 
       Windows.Networking.BackgroundTr... 
       Windows.Networking.BackgroundTr... 
       Windows.Networking.dll             
       Windows.Networking.HostName.dll    
       Windows.Networking.NetworkOpera... 
       Windows.Networking.Proximity.dll   
       Windows.Networking.ServiceDisco... 
       Windows.Networking.Sockets.Push... 
       Windows.Networking.UX.EapReques... 
       Windows.Networking.Vpn.dll         
       Windows.Networking.XboxLive.Pro... 
       Windows.Payments.dll               
       Windows.Perception.Stub.dll        
       Windows.Security.Authentication... 
       Windows.Security.Authentication... 
       Windows.Security.Authentication... 
       Windows.Security.Credentials.UI... 
       Windows.Security.Credentials.UI... 
       Windows.Services.TargetedConten... 
       Windows.SharedPC.AccountManager.dll
       Windows.SharedPC.CredentialProv... 
       Windows.Shell.Search.UriHandler.dll
       Windows.Shell.StartLayoutPopula... 
       Windows.Storage.Compression.dll    
       Windows.Storage.Search.dll         
       Windows.Storage.WinRT.dll          
       Windows.System.Diagnostics.Tele... 
       Windows.System.Diagnostics.Trac... 
       Windows.System.Profile.Platform... 
       Windows.System.Profile.SystemId.dll
       Windows.System.Profile.SystemMa... 
       Windows.System.RemoteDesktop.dll   
       Windows.System.UserDeviceAssoci... 
       Windows.System.UserProfile.Diag... 
       Windows.UI.AppDefaults.dll         
       Windows.UI.BioFeedback.dll         
       Windows.UI.BlockedShutdown.dll     
       Windows.UI.Cred.dll                
       Windows.UI.CredDialogController.dll
       Windows.UI.Input.Inking.Analysi... 
       Windows.UI.Input.Inking.dll        
       Windows.UI.PicturePassword.dll     
       Windows.UI.Search.dll              
       Windows.UI.Xaml.InkControls.dll    
       Windows.UI.Xaml.Maps.dll           
       Windows.Web.Diagnostics.dll        
       Windows.Web.dll                    
    
    
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Total 0 folder(s); 129 file(s)
    
      Total files size: 89 MB; 88836 KB; 90968128 Bytes
    
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
     
  18. sobre27

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    #219 sobre27, Mar 29, 2017
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    Rancor did you chop the bluetooth pack + bluetooth drivers? no problems at all dispite the portable stuff? (i didn't try it)
    Did you test those dll removes on a chopped windows or on regular one?

    edit: some games don't work without the media feature pack (GTA V) solution: integration or post install of: KB3133719
     
  19. RanCorX2

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    dlls removed on kinda fresh install in vmware but should be fine on a slimmed install as some of them will be gone already.
    bluetooth working great with the toshiba stack and no ms bt files or drivers.