Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB N - Pure Desktop version, Flexible updates, no Modern Apps

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  1. revertex

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  2. T-S

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    Most of the things needed must be there.

    I have upgraded a standard Pro version to LTSB-N and most of the metro apps were retained and working (including the market), at least for the current user. New users started with a clean profile with almost no metro apps. But some still survived like the new crap calculator.
     
  3. revertex

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    can't see any difference between education and enterprise.

    lucky you, can defer updates, and set some GPO to fine tune updates.
     
  4. Tiger-1

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    #225 Tiger-1, Aug 2, 2015
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    yay great comment :applause:
     
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    #226 mastershake, Aug 2, 2015
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    is there a download link to this version? maybe im blind but i dont see one


    edit found it thanks!
     
  6. XxBrazilianoxX

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    I wanted to try the LTSB N to see if the lack of the extra stuff (App store, edge, cortana, etc.) Would increase system performance (RAM, CPU usage) compared to Pro, but found it similar. Plus I can remove the apps tiles from start menu in case of Pro, Enterprise, Education and disable automatic updates in any version through group policy (pro, ltsb, works for all). And LTSB is only 180 days kms activation compared to education that I have which is permanent.
     
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    #228 tarihci, Aug 2, 2015
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    wait, wait, wait....I thought (from the title of this thread and the content of its first post) it is only possible to disable and truly manage automatic updates for LTSB and LTSB-N.
    Isn't it the case?

    I have been continually reading this thread for the last two days. It goes back and forth in almost every page. I just don't know anymore.
    I haven't updated to Win10 yet, need to sort out some hdd stuff first and clean up the plate. So, I don't have a clear notion of what's going on.

    Can some explain what is disabling, hiding, and stopping automatic updates mean? They must mean distinctly different things, otherwise people wouldn't keep using similar but different verbs to state conflicting arguments in their sentences on the same topic.

    I thought,
    1) Home, Pro, Enterprise, and Education all receive updates (mandatory) and there is no way to stop or delay it;
    2) only Enterprise LTSB (and LTSB-N, see #3 below) is exempt from mandatory updates and can manage the updates (e.g. install A and B now, don't install C ever, install D later) based on user/manager's will;
    3) N models' difference is that they don't have media and modern apps (Home, Pro, Enterprise, Education Ns still get mandatory updates, but Enterprise LTSB-N is still covered under #2 mentioned above).

    Did I understand correctly?
     
  8. compgen_1534

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    Unfortunately not even ltsb will let you pick updates. No version will. The best you can do is have a metered connection or use that trick over Ethernet to download all of them manually at once

    There is one neat little trick that I thought of :D

    Hint hint... You can pick your updates with a WSUS server :D
     
  9. bromanbro

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    Nope. ALL get mandatory, unselecatable updates by default.

    However, in ALL versions (except Home) you can use Gpedit/metered connection if on Wifi to have WU present a "download" button instead of it automatically downloading said updates.

    LTSB only gets security updates, not feature updates, and it lacks ALL Modern apps except for Feedback and "Contact Support"

    ps: Though we're not sure if LTSB will get the stability update in August.

    N=no media codecs/windows media player.

    Without 3rd party tools, you CANNOT manually select what updates you want, on any version.
     
  10. compgen_1534

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    Also good question

    LTSB will receive no feature updates, meaning no stability update. The enterprise has mission critical applications and they can't afford to have anything happen with all those feature updates.

    You can though update manually with media though

    PS
    Read my post on the last page
    Been selecting updates for a while now :D
     
  11. bromanbro

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    Indeed, but not sure how often MS will release new LTSB images. I thought it was supposed to be every ~2 years?


    TBH I doubt any Enterprises are running 10 LTSB yet, as it's likely not as stable as whatever 7/8/Server 2012 Setup they currently have.
     
  12. compgen_1534

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    You're right because it costs lots of money to plan and take action with a migration from win 7 or 8.1 to 10
    It takes many months or even years.
     
  13. bromanbro

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    Thus why some still run XP :p.
     
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    I've even seen some with 2000 :eek:

    Yikes!
     
  15. XxBrazilianoxX

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    Saw a guide and it seemed difficult. Isn't it?
     
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    Thanks, confirmed working. No auto download/install updates. Also confirmed Media Feature Pack will only install Media Player and Codecs, no cortana etc. Great :)
     
  18. T-S

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    #240 T-S, Aug 3, 2015
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    Mmmm...

    No.

    The only thing that classic shell lacks are the active tiles that you haven't anyway on a crap free version.

    Everything else is better in Classic Shell (by far)