Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB N - Pure Desktop version, Flexible updates, no Modern Apps

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  1. pawX

    pawX MDL Member

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    So it sounds like this version might not get updated modern replacements to classic things. It didn't get the Photos app or the Calc app (instead it has the classic ones), and it didn't get the modern Browser which isn't really an app I guess but new software that's supposed to replace an existing one (even though IE is still in all versions).

    If that's the case, it's not a big deal in my opinion. It basically means that if MS decides to make some new eye-candy version of mspaint or the snipping tool, we might not get it. And if a 10.1 version comes, we might not get it through traditional Windows Update means (but that's also not a given, we might still be able to if we choose to use the Current branch), but instead will need to upgrade from an updated ISO (or install it fresh). Just a guess though.
     
  2. T-S

    T-S MDL Guru

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    Practically that is what should happen.

    Although, theoretically, MS could update also a classic program, say they could release an IE v14 browser.

    In that hypotetical scenario IE14 wouldn't pushed via WU on LTS versions
     
  3. mitsos

    mitsos MDL Junior Member

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    Windows 10 Enterprise 2015 LTSB will get 5 jears full and 5 years extended support till 10/14/2025 like all windows 10 products.

    Sources:
    h**ps://support.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle?p1=18612
    h**p://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle

    Lifecycle Information for Microsoft Client Software Support:
    h**ps://support.microsoft.com/en-us/gp/lifeselectwin?wa=wsignin1.0
     
  4. pawX

    pawX MDL Member

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    Sounds good.

    I think Microsoft needs to clarify the whole Update Branches thing even further.

    When they say Home and Pro are on different branches (Pro = 4 month delay), I'm thinking that's actually not the case. What this means in my opinion, is that if Pro users tick the 'Defer Updates' option, they are then moved to the Current Branch for Business branch, which will get updates 4 months later. If they don't, they will receive updates the same way Home users do.
    I also think this is similar with Enterprise and LTSB (which can also defer). LTSB can turn off updates via WU completely and manage it on their own via WSUS, but they can also get updates via WU with the fast branch like Home/Pro (possibly minus the modernized things like Edge/Apps). More on that has been covered in previous posts on this page and the one before.
     
  5. mitsos

    mitsos MDL Junior Member

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    Here you can find the exact information refering your point:

    Future upgrades for different versions of Windows 10:
    h**p://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-win_upgrade/future-upgrades-for-different-versions-of-windows/8675aab5-b436-42b4-bef8-0e42b06ca0cb?auth=1
     
  6. pawX

    pawX MDL Member

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    Thanks. According to the wording on that page, Pro/Enterprise/Education can get exactly the same updates as Home if a user chooses to. The only difference is the *ability* to customize it further on more advanced version, but no delays are forced.
     
  7. MrKaon

    MrKaon MDL Senior Member

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    KMS Activation
     
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  8. tarihci

    tarihci MDL Novice

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    There is no official upgrade to this (Enterprise LTSB or Enterprise LTSB N).

    As far as I know,
    You can only officially upgrade to Home or Pro (from Win7/8 Home and Pro/Ultimate).
    You can get a license for Education if you are a student.
    Enterprise editions require KMS activation.
     
  9. SightUp

    SightUp MDL Senior Member

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    How can I get this copy of Windows 10? Are there any downsides to it other than it not coming with the bloatware? Which I would consider a plus.
     
  10. oliverjia

    oliverjia MDL Addicted

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    Does anyone know if the MAK for Enterprise could be used to activate Enterprise LTSB? Please do report here is you know the answer. Many thanks.
     
  11. XxBrazilianoxX

    XxBrazilianoxX MDL Member

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    No. Each has own key
     
  12. oliverjia

    oliverjia MDL Addicted

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    ah, thanks.. Thought I could have a free ride with the LTSB version.. What about the KMS method, can the KMS work on LTSB version?
     
  13. XxBrazilianoxX

    XxBrazilianoxX MDL Member

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    Sure. I did it myself.
     
  14. oliverjia

    oliverjia MDL Addicted

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    Thanks mate. it appears I am forced to use KMS by microsoft, lol
     
  15. XxBrazilianoxX

    XxBrazilianoxX MDL Member

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    Eventually a valid MAK key will appear.
     
  16. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    There's no guarantee that a stolen/leaked mak key will not get you de-genuine status in the future.
    I think they are using genuine tickets for online activation as well.
     
  17. qwidee1933

    qwidee1933 MDL Junior Member

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    I just found something called Windows 10 Enterprise N LTSB ~debloat~ V1.4.0 as shown in the TXT file attached, did anyone try it out yet?

    View attachment de-bloat.txt
     
  18. TCM

    TCM MDL Addicted

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    A script from 4chan. Can't wait to try it out and become part of a greater cause.

    Not.
     
  19. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    I installed Windows 10 Enterprise N LTSB 32bit on a Dinosaur Computer with the following spec:
    • Mainboard: PC-Chips P32G V.3.1
    • CPU Intel Pentium 4 Socket 775
    • Memory: DDR2 2 GB ( 2 x 1 GB) max possible
    • Graphic: ATI Radeon 9600 AGP
    • 2 SATA 150 connectors, 2 IDE & 1 FDD
    • HDD: 1 x Maxtor 160GB IDE 133 & 1 Maxtor 200GB IDE 133

    I was run Windows XP on 1 HDD (160GB) and Windows 7 U on the other HDD (200GB). W7 was set to reserve for Windows 10 and I used to upgrade that one which worked but well.

    As I use that Computer mainly for HDD Formatting, Low Level & High Level, but games etc or other bogus apps, I Low Level Formatted both HDD and installed Windows 10 Pro again on the 200GB HDD. That clean install worked well and all was working, except the driver for the Radeon 9600. Downloaded a bunch of drivers from AMD and Guru3D and none was working! Finally, I checked my old stock of Driver CD's/DVD's and found one working well.

    After that were done, I installed the Enterprise N LTSB on the 160GB HDD for to test. That install went fine to and I activated with MTK2.5.3 with no problems. As I only need plain apps for working on that Machine I started to uninstall what isn't need, still not finish with that yet! Because I'm caution and do an Imaging of the whole HDD after every uninstall, just for to keep track what could be removed with no problems and which has to be avoided to un-install! Till now everything done does not start any problem.

    I've to admit that I'm really surprised how this limited version of Windows 10 is running on that 12years old machine with just a single Core CPU of 3.06GHz!! After all removal of apps are done, I'll create a WinToUSB Drive on an external USB2 HDD to see if it still runs fast enough. On the end of the day, I'll use the WinToUSB on maybe 64GB USB3 Flash Drives and replace the old external HDD by my staff with those.

    This test on that Dinosaur Computer shows that Windows 10 is able to be used on very low power and still runs as good as XP and even better than Windows 7!
     
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  20. verndog

    verndog MDL Member

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    Reading the 'de-bloat' file, it seems to be just tweaks and doesn't remove any files.
    From the name I was thinking the opposite. It just removes access for potential bloat.