Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB N - Pure Desktop version, Flexible updates, no Modern Apps

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  1. dhjohns

    dhjohns MDL Guru

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  2. rogierius

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    And WFC stands for Windows Firewall Control?
     
  3. endbase

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    Yep That is what it stands for
     
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  4. T-S

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    Don't forget that there is a new version based on b14352, which isn't branded as LTSB anymore but is just called Enterprise S, just like the internal name of the old LTSB.
     
  5. GOD666

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    Windows Server 2016 (I use Datacenter edition with desktop) has replaced my copy of LTSB. The only modern app was Calculate and Store. Uninstalling Calculate was easy (and harmless). But it allows me to have the store to install the few apps I want. Best of all it's kept current, unlike LTSB. Fewer services than LTSB too.

    The only difference and drawback I'm finding; is because it's still beta it's not as stable (few services not starting for example). It's not as friendly with multiple users either. Some programs such as Chrome had to be installed independently for each user. Finally, Server Edition is faster (using fewer resources) once booted, but it is a slower boot (I can live with that).
     
  6. T-S

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    Glad to see that my suggestions helped ;)
     
  7. crash2009

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    I agree. Unfortunately the sheep need the phones to know what day it is.
     
  8. zamica

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    Is this new version final or still insider build? and if its final would you please add a download link?
     
  9. T-S

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    Already expired.

    Possibly a new "final" version will be available together with server 2016 (which should be released in September)
     
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    There is no mention of 9057894.iso at the above link.
    There is a comment that "new versions of Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB are not published to Windows Update or WSUS, so you have to use media (ISO files will be available on VLSC on October 1st)".

    re MDL thread 70570-Windows-10-Redstone-1-MSDN-amp-Enterprise-LTSB-2016-Link-Download:

    ambidav has posted links for en_windows_10_enterprise_2016_ltsb_x64_dvd_9059483.iso and en_windows_10_enterprise_2016_ltsb_x86_dvd_9060010.iso.

    Is that a final 2016 LTSB release?

    Will MS be supporting 1507 and 1607 LTSB as separate products for the long term???
     
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  13. jeff2012

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    What is the difference feature wise between LTSB and LTSB "N"? I know "N" does not have Media player.

    Is there a pack that will selectively allow me to add back Cortana, Skype and Photo Viewer?

    Would such a feature pack make it a true Enterprise image except for the forced updates?

    Thanks!
     
  14. Snuffy

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    sort of like upgrade to LTSB 2016.
     
  15. theshadow1234

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    This is our choice of OS to be part of our corporate environment because we simply just do not need the apps, edge, cortana, store etc. There are ways to remove these features (Windows 10 Enterprise) with reg hacks and group policy settings but one Microsoft Update can ruin all that for you and revert it all back. Simply not tolerable in our environment. I just deployed LTSB x64 on one test machine and i am looking at the start layout. A few items caught my attention that i would really like to get rid of for basic users in our environment. Remind you that this is version 1607 14393.321

    1. One Drive Is on the start menu and taskbar For all Users.
    2. Windows Admin Tools and Powershell Menus are in the Start Menu for All users.
    3. No IE Shortcut on taskbar.

    #1 is optional and i guess it depends if large environments would benefit from it but for now, i will remove \ disable One Drive since we don't really have any need for it.
    #2 Is simply not needed for a basic user. These are admin tools so why even bother putting them in the start menu if you are limiting the user with just basic rights.
    #3 It would've been nice to have seen it out of the box but i guess you can customize it somehow.

    There's one big issue that i have with all WIndows 10 editions that i haven't tested with LTSB and that is support for different resolution wallpapers for the lock screen. So far none of the Windows 10 products i've tested support different resolution wallpapers. Unlike Windows 7 you could modify the registry and copy over all the resolution wallpapers in a folder called OEM\Backgrounds\. Depending on your monitor size and reolution, that wallaper would display properly on that monitor. example 4:3 monitor with a resolution of 1024x768. In windows 10, that is gone. You have to specify the location of one wallpaper.jpg for everyone to use for all monitors. So if i have user located at a warehouse with a 4:3 monitor and i apply a 1280x720 resolution it will not auto adjust and the image will be cropped.

    That's my only complaint. If anyone knows a fix with the different resolution wallpaper let me know.

    Thanks
     
  16. wazzock

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    Seeing as i never use any included windows tools etc to do stuff, ltsb is a good choice. N version even better. Photo viewer is crap anyway so it will come out too, alongwith IE and defender. MS has removed some the crapola i remove anyway. Saves me having grief doing it. :)
     
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  17. Shayne

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    Not much of a way to tweak the new start menu as it no longer follows the DOS and with no way to nest programs or create folders when I tried it. The best for a corp environment would be to install the third party classic shell. It will give you more control back and would also be more familiar for your users. The new start menu is nothing but crapola, has been since 8.1 tiles, they just can not seem to say we have created crapola and need to scrap it.

    Regards
     
  18. bodyman2000

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    I would like to ask a question about the expiry date of the S.O LTSB N.
    You all know that the test release last for 90 days increased at up to 180 by using the rearm.Now I was told that the RE LOADER 2.2 is able to stop the control on the two dates.Who uses this build of Windows 10 LTSB N how did you bypass the expiration date of the S.O. same ???I would use this version but before installing it want to know if i can use it beyond the trial period.
    MANY THANKS TO ANYONE HELP ME.
    ;)
     
  19. Enthousiast

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    Just don't install eval versions, none of the proper working KMS solutions work on evals, all the regular 2016 LTSB editions are availiable for months now.
     
  20. bodyman2000

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    That's right. I seek a RTM build of LTSB N and delete the problem of deadline. Thank you very much for your response.

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