Windows 10 Hotfix Repository

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  1. Enthousiast

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  4. Enthousiast

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    Something like W10UI?:D
     
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  5. Mr.X

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    Dumb me :tooth:
     
  6. Mr.X

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    Trying but it seems not to work independently, the Cleanup System Image feature. This system has its updates already installed. I just want to clean up.
     
  7. ch100

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    Old info working very well only on older versions which I think was specified by @abbodi1406 few times already.
    With current versions, base components are removed and rollback to an earlier LCU is extremely difficult if not impossible without full reinstall upgrade in place.
    If rollback is not required, no switches are needed and regular clean up is OK.
    What I say is that delta compression is no longer working.
     
  8. abbodi1406

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    It's still working for non LCU updates (SSU, .NET ...)
     
  9. ch100

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    Do we still need the switch SupersededActions 3 for the delta compression for the non LCU updates to work or is the default fine?
    Primarily asking for the 1904x versions but for 1809/2019 as well.
     
  10. abbodi1406

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    For offline integration, yes
    for online OS, i never tested without it
     
  11. ch100

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    Thanks. :)
    I am trying to test the default behaviour now in 19041/2004 online.
    Obviously this would apply only to .NET Framework Updates.
    Flash is obsolete and will not test and SSU is more complicated as require .mum editing for proper results.
    I will skip SSU testing.
    If I will get any relevant results, I will post here.

    Are there any values for the SupersededActions documented anywhere, other than value 3? I am aware of value 3 being documented in C:\Windows\servicing\Editions\WimBootConfig.ini for various editions.
    e.g. LatentActions values 0 and 1 are documented as they are different for Windows 10 and Windows 8.1.
    What about SupersededActions which I see only value 3 being documented.
     
  12. ch100

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    As promised, I come back with some findings.
    On 19041.1 online with 2021-01 SSU, 2021-02 LCU, 2020-10 .NET Security Update and 2021-02 .NET Security Update, there is no difference between SupersededAction set at 3, set at 1 or default, which is value not in the registry.
    In all 3 instances, after running dism /online /cleanup-image /startcomponentcleanup, LCU becomes the new base and cannot be uninstalled while the .NET Framework components become delta compressed. 2020-10 .NET update is uninstalled in the process, while 2020-02 update can be removed gracefully and rolled back to the base .NET Framework components from 19041.1.

    So the obvious conclusion from my perspective is that it is best to leave the default configuration of the Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SideBySide\Configuration registry key.
    The SupersededActions value may not matter at all on an online image of 1904x.
     
  13. abbodi1406

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    #12415 abbodi1406, Apr 18, 2021
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    @ch100
    None of SideBySide\Configuration registry values is really documented

    SupersededActions:
    0 = no affect
    1 = no affect if DisableResetbase 1
    1 = remove superseded components if DisableResetbase 0 (break future LCU installation on 1903 and later)
    2 = no affect
    3 = delta compress
     
  14. Means by default 3 is the best dword value for it with disableresetbase as 0 :) thanks a lot.
     
  15. ch100

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    To me this looks like DisableResetbase should always be 1 in the first place. I don't see a valid reason to have it set to 0 at all.
    The SupersededActions value is separate even if it overrides the DisableResetbase value in some instances.
     
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    #12419 fch1993, Apr 19, 2021
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    Can you re-upload the patch?

    It says files not found right now.

    PS: I doesn't see the LCU been added to winre.im&boot.wim and I can't add the LCU to boot.wim(From 2016 LTSB MVS Image),Which shouldn't have the problem.
     
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    #12420 fch1993, Apr 19, 2021
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    I still don't get the point.

    I still have two question remained after reading those posts.

    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/posts/1533353/
    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/posts/1532957/


    1.if DisableResetbase=1 && No SupersededActions keyword.

    What happened when I do "Dism.exe /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup /ResetBase" and "Dism.exe /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup"

    What I know is:

    in LTSC/Server 2019, /ResetBase remove the Superseded LCU and other updates. /StartComponentCleanup delta-compress LCU and other updates?
    in 1903 later, /ResetBase remove the Superseded LCU and other updates. /StartComponentCleanup only remove the Superseded LCU and delta-compress other updates?


    2.You said "ResetBase was disabled for offline images since build 16299"

    But in W10UI, "Cleanup=1 wieh ResetBase=1" still got about 300-500MB image size smaller than "Cleanup=1 with ResetBase=0".

    What's the difference between these actions in offline images now?