Windows 10 Hotfix Repository

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by Tito, Oct 1, 2014.

  1. bonesz

    bonesz MDL Addicted

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  2. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Try and see what is reported?
     
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  3. donmiller

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    Upon further analysis, I'm seeing that the Windows10.0-KB5041582-x64.cab in the MSU file contains the following:

    SSU-19041.4840-x64.cab
    toc.xml
    update.cat
    update.mum
    Windows10.0-KB5041582-x64.cab

    The UUPDump Windows10.0-KB5041582-x64.cab file contains the following:

    cabinet.cablist.ini
    Cab_1_for_KB5041582_PSFX.cab
    Cab_2_for_KB5041582_PSFX.cab
    update.cat
    update.mum

    So the Windows10.0-KB5041582-x64.cab in the MCU embeds another file with the same name as itself, along with another copy of the SSU.

    From a coherent coding perspective, it doesn't make any sense to have two Windows10.0-KB5041582-x64.cab files with different content, one embedded inside the other. It's like playing with Chinese boxes. But it would probably make sense to someone who works at MSFT.

    Nonsense to me. :rolleyes:
     
  4. donmiller

    donmiller MDL Addicted

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    No, you don't need to reinstall the cab for 19045.4842 or the MSU.
     
  5. bonesz

    bonesz MDL Addicted

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    ty my friend appreciate the help :)
     
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  6. bonesz

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    ty kindly for the confirmation. :)
     
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  7. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    That's been the case since they decided to combine SSU with LCU for Windows 10 1809+

    there were not releasing .msu files through uupdump, until Win11 arrived

    and yes, the Windows 10 LCU msu from UUP is different and does not include SSU
     
  8. donmiller

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    #14889 donmiller, Aug 30, 2024
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    It has been so long since I disassembled an MSU, that I forgot that some of the LCU cabs might have an SSU in them! I got reminded about that today when I took apart the MSU and CABs. Thanks for reminding me about that.
     
  9. ЯƎHTͶAꟼ

    ЯƎHTͶAꟼ MDL Senior Member

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    Gave me a good laugh, thanks for that. :D
     
  10. donmiller

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    You're welcome!
     
  11. Paul Mercer

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    #14892 Paul Mercer, Aug 30, 2024
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  12. bonesz

    bonesz MDL Addicted

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    Not sure I understand.
     
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  13. ЯƎHTͶAꟼ

    ЯƎHTͶAꟼ MDL Senior Member

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    They are not. Another .cab just included the identical cab, that does not make the outer cab identical to it, and that was it all about.
    I don't think common sense means ignoring of detailed technical facts. Even lesser in a technical forum. Least from someone who publicize all these files here.

    Uploading an ISO with only changed image- name and post it here, would against forum rules. It is a customized ISO then.
    Even if its installing the exactly same windows, it is still different ISO, what has a different Hash-value.

    You can't come and say "those ISOs are identical, you ignore common sense." - They are not.
    Simple as that.
     
  14. ЯƎHTͶAꟼ

    ЯƎHTͶAꟼ MDL Senior Member

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    @donmiller was the actual one who helped you, Enthousiast just said "find out yourself", not really that big help. :)
     
  15. Paul Mercer

    Paul Mercer MDL Guru

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    It was about lcu cab, not about lcu+ssu combined cab

    Lcu cabs are identical and it was like this for a lot of years

    If you can't see the difference then you are as ignorant as him
     
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  16. ЯƎHTͶAꟼ

    ЯƎHTͶAꟼ MDL Senior Member

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    #14897 ЯƎHTͶAꟼ, Aug 30, 2024
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    Then I read it wrong, ...or better say, miller wrote it wrong, mentioned LCU-Only while meaning (and posting the hashes of) the combined one.
    Edit: Yes I figured, he wrote it wrong, but that still does not change the thing that the combined is not identical.

    This is technically wrong, too.

    It giving me headaches either that they packed the cab with the same name within it.
    Why not giving it the name of what it actual is..
     
  17. Paul Mercer

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  18. donmiller

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    The CAB NAMES are identical. The CAB content is different for the two CABS with the same name. You didn't say that the second cab, with the same name, was embedded in the first cab, and needed to be extracted. I'm sorry that explaining this was a challenge for you. You could have explained this better. 'No need to be insulting.
     
  19. Paul Mercer

    Paul Mercer MDL Guru

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    it has been like this for a ton of years so I never thought I should explain it in detail, and besides, you got correct answer here https://forums.mydigitallife.net/posts/1849979
     
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