Windows 10 or Windows 11 Confused?

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by gsbnlda, Aug 3, 2023.

  1. acer-5100

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    #21 acer-5100, Aug 15, 2023
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  2. hoak

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    My opinions and preferences are more important than your opinions about what you prefer in your life and how you do things; I'M ALWAYS RIGHT AND WILL HAVE THE LAST WORD!

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  3. acer-5100

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    The opinions of some people are more important than others, in any activity. Stick it in your mind

    Otherwise we were all designers, artist, journalist, sysadmins, coders... and so on

    Otherwise there was no need to have school, universities.

    Instead, my dear, the experience, the competence still counts even in a world where everyone, feels entitled to write the first random stupidity in the name of supposed intellectual equality that never existed in this world.
     
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  5. acer-5100

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    Are you sure that you aren't affected by some inferiority syndrome? :confused:

    Where your point was supposedly criticized in this discussion
     
  6. Bat.1

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    Bat only recently downgraded from Win 8.1 to Win 10 as a daily driver. He'll downgrade to Win 11 when Win 10 loses support.
    Bat opinions are usually considered Off Topic or Irrelevant and get deleted though o_O
     
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  7. hoak

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    No, just entertained by your obnoxious hubris, perfidy, non-sequiturs and use of informal fallacy as argument.

    So, English is a second language for you? If not, then this should be more a point of shame for you than embarrassment...
     
  8. acer-5100

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    Even forth one, for that matter :D

    Whatever... no one force you to read, learn, understand, think like an adult.

    And no one force you to read my messages and everything else you don't like.

    Less time wasted for you, less time wasted for people like me that has the patience to reply to your useless messages.

    Have a nice day.
     
  9. Atari800XL

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    I've been using version 11.90 (some sort of free giveway version, I believe) and it never failed me.
    It has proven to be able to perform at least one seemingly impossible task (at least for Windows Explorer):
    - namely to remember I want details view always and everywhere.
    For this it uses some advanced technology from the future, I believe they call it "ini files" (I know, who can comprehend what that could be).

    Making the impossible unimpossible...

    (It also has other features like making the main window appear in the same flippin spot every time is starts, but who would ever need that, right?)
     
  10. Atari800XL

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    Yep, couldn't have said it better myself.
    Once upon a time I struggled to make Windows File Explorer do things the way I wanted ("Hey, it can't be that hard, right? After all, it's just a file explorer?").
    Then came XYPlorer, and I struggled no more.

    Still, Donald Lessau (XYPlorer author) knows a little bit about struggling as well, as he gave up on creating a native 64-bit version of the program (would be great in a 64-bit-only PE). Oh well, we can't have it all, I guess :)

    Sorry for the off-topic.
     
  11. atgpud2003

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    Be Honestly, Hard to tell, I did my MSI CR620 Laptop and I have Windows 10 and 11 (DUAL BOOT) thing is I had noticed Windows 10 boot up as 12 seconds and Windows 11 was 5.3 Seconds.. The Windows 11 system seem quicker open apps and etc.. I am currently do more testing on 11...

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  12. acer-5100

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    It's obviously possible that some boot time optimization are doing some magic. I think that no one has ever criticized what's under the hood of W11, all criticism comes about the screwed up GUI, usability, freedom limited by supposed security "improvements" and so on...

    That said we should never forget that the sentence "The System X+1 is faster/smoother than the system X" is as old as the DOS 2.0.

    Usually this comes because the comparison is done using a virgin OS v X+1 and a worn out OS v X.
    If comparison is done in the same condition almost always the older OS is faster than the newer one. There are few exceptions like Win8 which is definitely faster than Win7.
     
  13. It surely true. Windows 3.11 was faster than Windows 95, which was faster than 98, which was faster than 2000, which was faster than XP, which was faster than Vista.
    Everything is well tested by me.
    Some people run old OSes (like Win3.11 or 98) even today. They are fast as hell on modern hardware.

    They are unimaginably fast.
    It is quite logical, because they have been designed for much slower hardware.
     
  14. raptorddd

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    i also find it faster except opening apps on w10 takes 5 seconds on windows 11 around 20.
     
  15. k3lt

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    I'm on 11 and about to go back to 10. 1 thing that pisses me off the most is the random "white screen flickering/flashing" with hardware acceleration enabled in apps / chrome etc. when there are 2 video playing at once. (100% reproducable)
    Never had this issue on 10.
     
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    #37 acer-5100, Aug 17, 2023
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    I'm testing 23H2 right now and finally I spotted something where Win11 (which is really Win11.1 or Win11.2 depending how you count it) does something really better than Win10 (and even Server 2022).

    Virtualbox in "turtle mode" (running with Hyper-V enabled) runs not just a bit faster but hugely faster. Vbox used to be unbearably slow if Hyper-V was enabled (hence the turtle icon), but now runs almost as fast as in native mode.

    I mean in a 2003 machine, I run inside VBOX, just to launch IE6 and reach the homepage I need to wait something like 5/6 seconds on Win10 host.
    In 23H2 the same operation is just instantaneous.

    Perhaps I forgot to enable the hypervisor platform thing (which is a fundamental requirement to run VMware and VBox with Hyper-V enabled) and Vbox ran w/o a blink. VMware seem not affected, it was way faster than VBox in W10 and not a lot seem changed in Win 11.

    So as usual while the GUI team works to fu**k up the user interface, the kernel guys are doing their home work.
     
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    are you using the 'contrast' mode on win11 ? , you can try to 'disable' the chrome://flags "forced colors' , I went back to linux as since chrome 116 this flag makes the whole web ok but the internal chrome pages (incl bookmarks/settings etc) are like a sh*tshow mess (dark with while elements).

    alternative option is to enable the 'animations' on windows, I really hate that -gives me headache- but helped the 'white flash' on chrome. BTW 'white flash' was more visible (worst) on win10 than win11 in my case...(both enterprice editions and systems were in 'contrast' mode)
     
  18. k3lt

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    I'm 100% positive it's caused by hardware acceleration since disabling it in Chrome stops the flickering. Never used contrast mode in Windows 11.
     
  19. acer-5100

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    Just use vivaldi://gpu (or chrome://gpu if you are in love with spyware) to shed some light to what happens