Windows 10 upgrade is FORCE installing to Win 7/8/8.1 PC's, without user consent!

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  1. oreo27

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  2. foo3495

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    #142 foo3495, Nov 20, 2015
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  3. Skaendo

    Skaendo MDL Addicted

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    #143 Skaendo, Nov 20, 2015
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    I have a suspicion that people that are seeing the updates return from hiding is due to wusa will not remove an update if there is more than one instance of that update.......

    That is where I think that all these "scripts" are failing.

    @foo3495, open up a elevated command prompt, issue this command and let me know what turns up:

    Code:
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB2952664
     
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    #144 foo3495, Nov 21, 2015
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    pasting that into admin cmd prompt then enter brings nothing ?
    KB2952664 here is hidden
     
  5. Skaendo

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    #145 Skaendo, Nov 21, 2015
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    It wont matter if it is hidden or not. Since it has returned nothing, that is good and indicates that you have successfully removed KB2952664. If there was more than 1 instance of it you would have seen something like this:
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    Package_for_KB2952664~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.1.3
    That tells the package name, IDK, architecture and package version.

    I check my system for and remove unwanted updates with dism. It is more foolproof than wusa.
     
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    foo3495 MDL Senior Member

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    #146 foo3495, Nov 21, 2015
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    i ran same cmd on a fresh install enterprise on a test box, because i remembered hiding KB2952664
    fully updated this morn and a few hidden, nothing the same as 2664 hidden.
    the first was on my main w7 ult box.
    i read enterprise is w10 proof, never used enterprise so am testing.
    thanks for the cmd tip.
     
  7. MysTikAL3

    MysTikAL3 MDL Senior Member

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    You're welcome..:)
    I completely agree with and understand your anger and frustration with MS..:whip:
    I would avoid using XP though. Much better to stick with 7...
    With your 7 PC clean and leaving auto updates off, along with 'Give me recommended updates...' unchecked in order to avoid all optional updates.
    That is all that is needed for now to avoid their win 10 crap.
    :)
     
  8. Meat[On]A[Stick]

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    The real time to start worrying is when the Windows 10 upgrade icon appears in your Linux OS.
     
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  11. SLICuser

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    #151 SLICuser, Dec 1, 2015
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    Some OEM installs you can not do as they configure the unattend to disable the ability (and per M$ this is a "best practice" just like using the -cpky command and deleting the cert in OOBE cleanup).

    It is under the Turn Windows features on or off, if the OEM has not blocked it, and windows will report you may break other functionality by removing it. When you have unchecked it, it uninstalls some files and swaps out the MDAC (and may ask for the install DVD to do so). Windows 8(.1?) I believe it is the same but I do not use it as I have no touch screens and the UI is unusable without a touch screen. I truth I prefer Cent and XP over Vista and newer, but stuck with Windows at work.

    Edit- You can also use tools like vLite to create custom install media without the many build components including the IE stack. Now that I think about it vLite is probably the reason I was asked for the DVD to change the MDAC as I think I turned off the install cache which was something I always did in nLite (2000 - XP).
     
  12. SLICuser

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    Unknown: I do not use Skype, or its predecessor Lynx.

    But my secondary win 7 boot at home (primary boot is cent 6) other browsers work, World of Warcraft works, Java and Minecraft works, Java auto update does not - never though that could be related but I also have the JRE browser extensions disabled (its there for the MC, and Libre), Steam works.

    At work Lynx asks for my credentials (which I blocked), Office works, VM, Java, open box, SCCM and MDT workbench all work. The only issue I've had was Chrome, VM, FF working together and I linked that to a know issue with the VTx implementation on my system and googleupdate (which was resolved by removing all Google software).
     
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    @Ausernamenoonehas

    The upgrade also removes:
    FireFox
    Office 2010 OEM basic.
    Office 2013 Platinum Plus (valid MAK and it steals a click from the pool to reinstall, apparently the activation stack generates the hash differently in 7 vs 10).
    Java
    Libre Office.

    funny thing it left behind Minecraft (which needs Java).
     
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    #155 wmh, Dec 3, 2015
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    What is the DISM command to remove them?


    All of these returned nothing:

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    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB2952664
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB971033
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB2902907
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB2922324
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB2952664
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB2976978
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB2977759
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB2990214
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3012973
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3014460
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3015249
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3021917
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3023345
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3035583
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3042058
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3044374
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3050265
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3064683
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3065987
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3065988
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3068707
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3068708
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3072318
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3074677
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3075249
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3075853
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3081437
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3080149
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3081454
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3081954
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3083324
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3083325
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3088195
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3090045
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr KB3093983
     
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    #157 oldsh_t, Dec 3, 2015
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    Well if the script returned nothing then they are not on your computer!! You should only have to run DISM script for KB2952664 because that update has at least 14 versions and this script will find any and all versions of it. But your script did not find any so your OK.

    Should your script have found one you would have to use this to get rid of it using DISM. Note that you will have to enter exactly what it found. Most of the scrript will be exactly the same except what is in red in the example. That may and will be different. Remember this is just an example!!

    EXAMPLE:
    You would use the above scripts to find and remove when there is more than one version of an update. It can be time consuming.

    A better way and faster is to use this scrip. If it is there they will ask you if you want to remove it. If it is not there it will tell you that is not installed and then move to the next one.

    Restart manually after anything is removed.
     
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