Windows 10 upgrade is FORCE installing to Win 7/8/8.1 PC's, without user consent!

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  1. MysTikAL3

    MysTikAL3 MDL Senior Member

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  2. abbodi1406

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    #162 abbodi1406, Dec 24, 2015
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    Win7 is out since 2009, now they noticed those wmc tasks? :rolleyes:
    i bet they all wrong in this matter, but i don't use wmc to be sure

    there are plenty of schedule tasks that not really used or usefull and can be disabled (i myself disable most of them)
    my argument is why wmc tasks specifically? and why linking them to win10/telemetry chaos :D
     
  3. MMIKEE

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    When using the KILL Windows 10 script and it gets to the section:
    REM - Now removing Windows 10 upgrade files (if present)

    takeown /F "C:\$Windows.~BT" /a /r /d y
    icacls "C:\$Windows.~BT" /reset /t /c /l /q
    rd /s /q C:\$WINDOWS.~BT

    I noticed that at: icacls "C:\$Windows.~BT" /reset /t /c /l /q
    I get 53 occurrences of “Access is denied”

    On the (4) Windows 7 PC’s I’ve used this script on, none had the Hidden C:\$WINDOWS.~BT folder installed… I used an Administrator Command Prompt to run this script…

    So, my question is: Is this normal behavior for this to occur?
     
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    #164 MysTikAL3, Dec 24, 2015
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    Yes, it is because it's searching for any instance of the $Windows.~BT folder, including the user folders, which returns the access denied results you see...
    :)
     
  5. MysTikAL3

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    As I said, I'm simply using the recommendation of Nummer (dev of DWS) and many others out there that also link these tasks to 'unwanted telemetry' and their scripts disable them as well. Maybe they shouldn't be 'linked to the win 7 telemetry chaos' as you label it, maybe they are wrong...o_O
    That said, to err on the side of caution, and with no ill effects, I see no reason not to disable them.
    I have no definitive reason to offer than that...o_O
    :)
     
  6. madLyfe

    madLyfe MDL Junior Member

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    i wasnt able to have any of the updates set to hidden after running the cmd.
     
  7. allesok

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    I ran KILLWin10.cmd as an administrator.
    Seemed to work fine, except that towards the end various "access denied" appeared...
    What can I do about that?
     
  8. MysTikAL3

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    #169 MysTikAL3, Dec 29, 2015
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    They are hidden but not yet visible in the list...
    You have to reboot after running the cmd.
    Then run check for updates, when finished any removed updates will then show in your 'hidden updates' list...;)
    If they were never installed to your system, then they will not be auto hidden unless they were present in your 'pending updates' list at the time you ran the cmd script.
    Another thing to note is that at anytime in the future if MS releases and installs new versions of any of theses KB's (which the have been doing), you can run the script again at anytime...
    :)
     
  10. madLyfe

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    ya thats how i did it. ran the cmd, rebooted, ran check updates and it still shows updates that need to be applied. shouldnt it show that i dont have any updates?
     
  11. MysTikAL3

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    #171 MysTikAL3, Dec 29, 2015
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    It won't show any of the removed updates need to be applied...
    So what updates are showing in your list that need to be applied...:confused:
    They should only be safe ones that your system needs...
    :)
     
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    #172 madLyfe, Dec 29, 2015
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    after a clean win 7 install i updated it fully until there were no more updates. then ran the cmd. why would it need more updates if it only removed the bad ones? i will post a screeny in a few.

    updated with screens:

    2015-12-29_09-25-05.png

    2015-12-29_09-25-26.png

    here are the hidden ones:

    2015-12-29_09-27-17.png
     
  13. MysTikAL3

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    #173 MysTikAL3, Dec 29, 2015
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    Even if Windows Updates was sucked dry, the updates come in groups, and other updates can show up at anytime.
    :)

    Edit; None of the KB's in your FIRST screenshot are part of the 'removed updates'.
    These are simply safe updates your system needs.
    The 'optional' updates list will not be installed.
    Be sure you have Give me recommended updates box cleared in Windows Updates...

    Your hidden updates list shows the updates that were removed by the script, or they were in the 'pending updates list'

    :)
     
  14. madLyfe

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    ya thats what i have it set to. so i can install all these important updates? the optional updates are bad ones?

    2015-12-29_09-33-42.png

    can you have your script auto hide the lang files?
     
  15. MysTikAL3

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    Yes you can install the First screenshot list.
    Sometimes the 'optional' list can or will contain bad ones, but optional updates will never be installed with your current Windows Updates settings...
    Just as the rest of us having Windows Updates set to 'Check for updates but let me choose....' we will be vigilant on any new 'important' updates that are released in the coming months...;)
    :)
     
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    i installed those 'important' updates from the first screenshot and now it came at me with 6 more in the 'important' section:

    2015-12-29_10-41-54.png
     
  17. oldsh_t

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    Looking through you screen shots it seems that you have updated to IE9, then IE10 and now you may be getting updates related to IE10. An also in your optional updates there is IE11 waiting to be installed. You will probably get that next with more updates.
     
  18. madLyfe

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    so even if i accidently install a bad update i would be able to run the script again just to make sure none of the bad ones have been installed and it wont cause any problems? running the script even though its been ran before, i mean.
     
  19. oldsh_t

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    You can run the script as many times as you like. No problems will occur.
     
  20. MMIKEE

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    Should KB3118401 Windows 10 Universal C Runtime (CRT) be added to the list of Remove & Hide Windows Updates? :confused:
     
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