Windows 7 and Java

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by akritasge, Nov 3, 2009.

  1. pezzonovante

    pezzonovante MDL Member

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    Silverlight is a new technology. It is becoming very popular. Hopefully it will kill Flash in near future just like .Net is slowly but surely killing Java. Microsoft rocks!!!
     
  2. buzz123

    buzz123 MDL Junior Member

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    JAVA (in this sense) really IS a virtual machine...

    When a JAVA program (source code) is compiled into object code (called "P" code for JAVA) it is meant to run on the "virtual" JAVA machine... Therefore, this code can run on ANY target machine that has its own JRE (JAVA Runtine Environment). The JRE is actually a coftware emulator (or translator) that can run the native P-code on the desired platform...

    What this offers the JAVA developer is a means to distribute a SINGLE set of compiled binaries to ANY computer that supports JAVA. Unlike (for example) a normal program where you might need a different version for Windows or MAC, the JAVA version runs ANYWWHERE.

    The JRE for each machine (obviously) is different... It translates from JAVA to the native platform, but is installed ONCE per machine.

    After that, ANY JAVA program can be run on the target virtual machine!

    Make sense?
     
  3. buzz123

    buzz123 MDL Junior Member

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    #23 buzz123, Nov 4, 2009
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    Silverlight is Microsoft's replacement for Adobe Flash as it performs many of the same functions as Flash...

    It really has nothing to do with JAVA...

    The .NET issue is a little different since .NET is really a set of tools for increased developer productivity...
    JAVA is all that PLUS a means to distribute portable code...
    (See my prior post)...
     
  4. ennio

    ennio Guest

    Of course not.
     
  5. ennio

    ennio Guest

    I know they are not the same. Java is a Virtual engine and Dot has JIT compiler, but very similar for me.

    Any info on J#? I never heard that it was widely used.
     
  6. ennio

    ennio Guest

    To buzz123 and pezzonovante.

    Why there is no support for x64 - Flash and SilverLight?
     
  7. Gethsemane

    Gethsemane MDL Member

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    #27 Gethsemane, Nov 4, 2009
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    .NET and Silverlight are Microsoft's way to dominate most of the computer user market. It basically gravitates everyone to instead use their own platform for web content. Silverlight isn't universal like Flash is for Mac/Linux/Windows/etc. And .NET is Microsoft only as well. Who knows what will happen. Wouldn't be surprised if the European Union kicks Microsoft in the balls again with going after them about this.

    But on a second note this could slap Adobe in the face and cause them to develop Flash into something even greater. Same could be said about SUN. Though aren't they due to be bought out by someone? Least I've read articles and rumors before, just don't feel like googling.

    There IS x64 support for flash on Linux, I do know that for a fact.
     
  8. ennio

    ennio Guest

    I hope they would develop flash for x64 IE. There is no reason not to do that.
     
  9. jjtricket

    jjtricket MDL Novice

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    If you find ie slow to open, try this

    Just updated to jre-6u17-windows-i586 using windows 7 ultimate. IE8 is very slow to open. Went to tools, manage add-ons,

    go to Java™ Plug-In 2 SSV Helper and disable.

    Problem solved!
     
  10. akritasge

    akritasge MDL Member

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    #31 akritasge, Nov 5, 2009
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    :confused: This is what I did, but I do not know how this will influence the operation of IE in case that some site will ask for Java in order to run.
    In VISTA there is not such a problem.
     
  11. ESC 1000

    ESC 1000 Guest

    Is not right first uninstall old java version, then install new version
     
  12. jjtricket

    jjtricket MDL Novice

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    Correct, uninstall the old version, install the new version. The word upgrade probably should not be used in this case.
     
  13. akritasge

    akritasge MDL Member

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    :eek: Unfortunately, even though Java 6u17, the problem insists.
     
  14. ESC 1000

    ESC 1000 Guest

    hold on your Keyboard the winflagkey key and then press the R key
    then type: msconfig and then enter key,
    see with java prog's run at your autogo, more then one?
     
  15. akritasge

    akritasge MDL Member

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    There is only one record of Java(TM) Platform SE 6U17 in the "Startup" Tab of System Configuration window.
     
  16. DummyPLUG

    DummyPLUG MDL Novice

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    is that just me? both u16 and u17 act normally for my Win7 x64, ie8 32bit. I use java daily for stock realtime quotes.

    p.s. I use offline install file only
     
  17. akritasge

    akritasge MDL Member

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