Windows 7 Hotfix repository

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by SoLoR, May 22, 2010.

  1. Dedek

    Dedek MDL Member

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    I did not hide anything either and WU shows them... weird indeed
     
  2. amires

    amires MDL Member

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    They show on my vmware installation as well. I guess it have something to do whether you are installing only ldr version of hotfixes or both gdr/ldr.
     
  3. Dedek

    Dedek MDL Member

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    Yea I integrate with LDR/QFE mode in Win Toolkit.
     
  4. RicaNeaga

    RicaNeaga MDL Senior Member

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    I don't think it has anything to do with how you integrate them. I use the regular way of integrating through Win Toolkit (not LDR/QFE one), and I still have those two as needed updates. So it's only a Microsoft update issue... however I prefer to also integrate them so I'll skip the post-install annoyment of Microsoft's update reminder :)
     
  5. amires

    amires MDL Member

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    Yes it does have everything to do with how you integrate them. For all security updates published to windows update microsoft checks if you have GDR version of the hotfix installed or not so if you only integrate LDR version of those hotfixes they will appear on windows update.

    My integration method is LDR only purely by using DISM and update-bf.mum file when available and as a result I have to integrate GDR version of the following hotfixes to keep windows update happy :

    KB2446710
    KB2478662
    KB2545698
    KB2547666
    KB2556532
    KB2619339
    KB2644615
    KB2665364
    KB2667402
    KB2679255v2
     
  6. McRip

    McRip MDL Addicted

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    I integrate with LDR/QFE mode as well and nothing is shown... I don't get it.
     
  7. amires

    amires MDL Member

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    Then you are integrating by installing both GDR and LDR version. You can check this by looking out at output of dism /Image:/path/to/mount/dir /Get-Packages /Format:Table. If for a given LDR hotfix you see two entries for that hotfix one of them having _BF in the name then you are installing both GDR and LDR.
     
  8. McRip

    McRip MDL Addicted

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    The problem is, some users install it like I do and WU shows the updates nevertheless.
    Systems can't be that different. The installation methods can't be that different either, because the same commands for installing are used.
     
  9. amires

    amires MDL Member

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    Well that all depends on the tools you use to integrate. Most of these tools integrate LDR hotfixes by installing both GDR and LDR version to force LDR which in my opinion is not a good idea why install more packages than necessary. That is why I never use any tools and I prefer to use DISM directly.

    Anyway I use update.cmd script by SOLOR to integrate only LDR hotfixes where applicable and then manually add GDR version of the hotfixes I mentioned above.
    I can also recommend burfadel's Installer for Windows Updates as it correctly install only LDR version and adds GDR version for needed hotfixes. However it can only be used on a live system. For integration a couple of modifications needs to be done to the script.

    UPDATE : I have just tested a new image I created in VMware using method I described above and no updates are shown on windows update.
     
  10. burfadel

    burfadel MDL EXE>MSP/CAB

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    No worries, thanks!

    If people find any errors, oversights, or omissions in the script let me know :)
     
  11. McRip

    McRip MDL Addicted

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    So which method is supposed to be the best one?
    Really, sometimes everthing turns topsy-turvy :worthy::biggrin:
     
  12. amires

    amires MDL Member

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    Well there is not a simple answer to that question. I personally prefer to have a clean image and not install any unnecessary packages. There is nothing wrong with installing both GDR and LDR of hotfixes like you do just more packages than necessary.
     
  13. McRip

    McRip MDL Addicted

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    I personally prefer a clean image, too. Sometimes all is in order and sometimes WU is going to be nuts...:D
    This time I just got lucky. I don't know. But I have an open mind about everything new...
     
  14. RickSteele

    RickSteele MDL Addicted

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    Not sure if this is any use Burf', but, I've attached the packages.txt and Features.txt in install_wim_info.7z for the system I just installed fresh now-updates integrated via KUC UpdateChecker-Beta-v.0.8.002.008.
    VM, NTBackup, Help are not enabled/updated; IIs, SNMP, NFS, MSMQ, AMD Core Parking, Subsystem-for-UNIX-based-applications etc. along with the PreSP1.Packages updates-except as previously noted-integrated.
    The only difference between your latest Superseded Uninstaller 18-Apr-2012 and komms latest KUC UpdateChecker-Beta-v.0.8.002.008 are as follows:

    you remove the following installers from the latest repositories (KUC_Repo on my HDD) and the Cesidian server uncompressed folders which mirrors all that has been discovered since SoLoR's last update-new added, superseeded removed etc.:

    KB2519922-v2
    KB2556532
    KB2597665-IIs
    KB2642947-v3
    KB2644615

    while komm retains them (for M$ I imagine). Oh, and no updates show at M$ update.
     
  15. komm

    komm MDL Addicted

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    if have also the above hotfixes in my gdr to keep database for x64
    except i don't have 2446710 and 2478662
    but also 2518869, 2633873, 2656356 an 2603229
     
  16. komm

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    2519922-v2 is not superseded
    2556532 is superseded but GDR to keep
    2597665 is for IIS and not superseded
    2642947-v3 is not superseded
    2644615 is superseded but gdr to keep

    I do not deep check the files on my server, if they are superseded.
    For me it is not necessary. I use KUC to download only the files I need.
    In addition, sometimes old updates are needed to repair a "BAD" update.
    I somebody finds superseded updates, please let me know.
     
  17. amires

    amires MDL Member

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    You are correct. KB2518869 and KB2633873 are replacements for KB2446710 and KB2478662. As for KB2603229 I always install both GDR and LDR versions of KB2603229 via sysprep. However I am pretty sure GDR version of KB2656356 is not necessary. I just did a test install last night with only LDR hotfixes and those I listed only appeared on windows update minus KB2603229 which I already had it integrated via sysprep. To be sure I manually installed GDR versions of the hotfixes I listed above substituting KB2518869 and KB2633873 for KB2446710 and KB2478662 on my vmware install and checked again for updates and no more updates showed on windows update.